kernel panic On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> apparently, God had other plans > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If he has any income (especially earned) at all, then yes on the tax >> evasion. >> >> >> On 5/13/17 9:43 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> >>> Don't you wonder? Is it? >>> >>> On 05/13/2017 07:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> And he lives with continual exposure of prison due to tax evasion. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews >>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:05 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>> >>>> Screwed by whose definition? If he put all that money that he would >>>> have paid as taxes under his bed/cabin/lean-to, he may be way... Way.. >>>> WAY better off... >>>> >>>> On 05/12/2017 01:51 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe that he is. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/12/17 1:44 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's right. I remember that now because we had to go to a little >>>>>> extra effort to ensure my wife had 20 quarters, but then we learned >>>>>> she gets half my benefit if it is larger. So it really was not an >>>>>> emergency after all. >>>>>> >>>>>> But for the undocumented guy in the woods, if he doesn't have 20 >>>>>> quarters of contributions I wonder if he is screwed? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Robertson >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 2:41 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>> >>>>>> No, you don't. You have to contribute for at least 20 (if I remember) >>>>>> quarters to get benefits. And many public employees, such as my wife >>>>>> (University professor) don't pay into social security at all - they >>>>>> have >>>>>> an alternative plan that has the same contribution requirements, but >>>>>> the >>>>>> money goes into your own mutual funds. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/12/17 1:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> When it comes time to collect social security, they take your highest >>>>>>> 35 years of pay to do the calculation. If you never put anything in, >>>>>>> I wonder if you get any out? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:53 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've heard tell of a local man working in the construction trades who >>>>>>> was born at home and has no documentation. Apparently he likes it >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> way. He works for cash and lives in a cabin on his parents' land. >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> not saying it's the right way, but it's apparently an option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: 5/12/2017 12:29:07 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Social Security didn't have any linkage with the county health >>>>>>>> department. We had to send the birth certificate to them to get the >>>>>>>> SSN number. Sometimes that was years later. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought the ssn was assigned even if the card isn't sent... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/12/17 9:16 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep, separate process. At least back in the day when my kids were >>>>>>>>> born. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN >>>>>>>>> registered? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 72,73,74 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Until ICE deports them to Syria. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> just fly under the radar of society and never pay taxes, >>>>>>>>> get a >>>>>>>>> drivers license, etc? That would be awesome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Go to the county health department. They will record >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> birth and get you a birth certificate (in Illinois). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one >>>>>>>>> had a >>>>>>>>> heart murmur because the doctor in all hi knowledge >>>>>>>>> decided >>>>>>>>> to induce a month early, little runt guy my son was, >>>>>>>>> but his >>>>>>>>> hole in his heart closed up and he outgrew his >>>>>>>>> runtness. the >>>>>>>>> second one had an OB who was a man hating believer in >>>>>>>>> bedrest and refused to let my paramedic sister get her >>>>>>>>> stork >>>>>>>>> pin. >>>>>>>>> The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues >>>>>>>>> with it >>>>>>>>> are the mess, the minimal risk of complication, and >>>>>>>>> primarily the paperwork the hospital handles, I don't >>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>> how that works, do I just take the fresh spawn up to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> police station and get a sticker like a bicycle >>>>>>>>> registration >>>>>>>>> or what? If I mess up the paperwork does my kid become >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> illegal immigrant? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> were delivered at their house. They hired a midwife >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> like $500 each time. It definitely is a lot cheaper >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth >>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>> naturally occurring event in nature all the time. >>>>>>>>> Some >>>>>>>>> women cant have a natural birth and need a >>>>>>>>> C-section and >>>>>>>>> sometimes they don't always know that until the >>>>>>>>> birth is >>>>>>>>> trying to happen. Maybe have the first one in the >>>>>>>>> hospital and if it can happen without a C-section >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> have the other ones at home? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With a Leatherman Tool, all things are >>>>>>>>> possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chuck...that's just gross. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at >>>>>>>>> home. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall >>>>>>>>> maintenance >>>>>>>>> Im pretty sure its the mail man again, >>>>>>>>> shes a >>>>>>>>> pretty shady letter carrier :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ive grown up in an ems family, two >>>>>>>>> paramedics, >>>>>>>>> two emt B and i was an emt I, two were >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> firefighters. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to >>>>>>>>> let my >>>>>>>>> paramedic sister deliver for CE, note we >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> (were at the time)literally the most >>>>>>>>> advanced >>>>>>>>> ems system in the US. And this hospital was >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> primary training facility. We figure we >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> tell the OB doc we have this, we only need >>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>> for her bloodwork and ultrasound, if they >>>>>>>>> wont >>>>>>>>> give my sis the legally required joy, we >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> get a dulla or however you spell it and pop >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> kid in the living room, mother nature >>>>>>>>> trumps >>>>>>>>> modern science in this regard. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There have to be a few of you who popped >>>>>>>>> yer >>>>>>>>> youngins outside a hospital. Especially the >>>>>>>>> guys >>>>>>>>> who are joe smith fans. 3 times out i >>>>>>>>> think we >>>>>>>>> are the ones in charge. >>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope you know the source of the >>>>>>>>> infection...if not...awkward... >>>>>>>>> Conrats! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren >>>>>>>>> Shea >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even after seeing the stick, it >>>>>>>>> didn’t >>>>>>>>> quite register until I re-read >>>>>>>>> everything you’d typed in this >>>>>>>>> thread - >>>>>>>>> clever! Congratulations!____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:*Af >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 >>>>>>>>> 10:56 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall >>>>>>>>> maintenance____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hers the initial diagnostic >>>>>>>>> output____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve >>>>>>>>> Jones" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is only one infected device. >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> malicious code that is replicating >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> directly attached to the command >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> control node. I know a lot of >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> would simply CleanSweep, but we >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> don't feel that is an appropriate >>>>>>>>> step. >>>>>>>>> There may be an IOT baby monitor >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> gets swept up in all this before >>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>> over in December. ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, >>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>> Milholen <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote:____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As any virus running on a network >>>>>>>>> it has >>>>>>>>> a pattern weather it be dormant on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> network at times or not. ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Identify the pattern and where it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> trying to phone home to and >>>>>>>>> isolate it >>>>>>>>> from phoning home. Then Clean sweep >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> machines you have control of.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The worst part of any of this is >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> IOT devices IE(ip cameras,dvrs, >>>>>>>>> tempature monitors and others) are >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> real threat as they have weak basic >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> that is open to the network.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Isolation will be your best bet. >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> will prevent DDOS attacks on one >>>>>>>>> front >>>>>>>>> but doesnt stop new viruses from >>>>>>>>> entering.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> wrote:____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> an addendum to this, there are >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> primay variants to the payload. >>>>>>>>> One >>>>>>>>> tends to be much more >>>>>>>>> aggressive, a >>>>>>>>> much more roughly defined code, >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> all that pretty, but ultimately >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> versatile and robust. The >>>>>>>>> other is >>>>>>>>> normally more elegant in >>>>>>>>> design, but >>>>>>>>> it tends to be visciously >>>>>>>>> malicious, >>>>>>>>> this is the one to be most >>>>>>>>> concerned >>>>>>>>> of. Its underlying code has >>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>> wars and destroyed nations____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, >>>>>>>>> Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So this weekend I >>>>>>>>> discovered a >>>>>>>>> Trojan virus on my network. >>>>>>>>> Sometime around January we >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> opted to remove an old >>>>>>>>> firewall >>>>>>>>> that had met its product >>>>>>>>> life >>>>>>>>> cycles end. We were still >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> process of deciding >>>>>>>>> whether to >>>>>>>>> continue with temporary >>>>>>>>> firewalls or look toward >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> robust input/output chain >>>>>>>>> policies for a hardened, >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> permanent solution. In the >>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>> time, of course, we >>>>>>>>> continued to >>>>>>>>> do the upload/download >>>>>>>>> thing. We >>>>>>>>> had some suspicion that >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> was something going on, we >>>>>>>>> noted >>>>>>>>> alot of broadcast storms, >>>>>>>>> particularly in the >>>>>>>>> mornings. >>>>>>>>> The network had become >>>>>>>>> particularly sluggish and >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> seemed to be alot of >>>>>>>>> application >>>>>>>>> bloat, initially i just >>>>>>>>> attributed this to poor >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> maintenance resulting in a >>>>>>>>> memory leak.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We did a basic Netstat this >>>>>>>>> weekend and discovered a >>>>>>>>> traffic >>>>>>>>> anomaly. So we went to a >>>>>>>>> professional and had them >>>>>>>>> run a >>>>>>>>> packet sniffer. We had >>>>>>>>> verification of foreign >>>>>>>>> code, >>>>>>>>> likely for as long as 6-8 >>>>>>>>> weeks.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It will be layer 3 in this >>>>>>>>> case >>>>>>>>> but its too early to tell >>>>>>>>> whether this codes payload >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> be TCP or UDP, we will be >>>>>>>>> monitoring as the code >>>>>>>>> replicates. This is a >>>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>>> common virus, as a matter >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> fact we have all had it at >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> point, probably so long >>>>>>>>> ago we >>>>>>>>> dont even remember. We >>>>>>>>> anticipate The fully formed >>>>>>>>> packet chain to leave NAT >>>>>>>>> mode >>>>>>>>> and be fully routed out to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> WAN in December.____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
