I guess I should have run a 10 10. is anybody able to justify 8050+ feet for 8 customers ROI on fiber 10a. this is a testbed, unrelated to the WISP I work for other than I plan on backhauling into it for the boss, whether he owns the customers, I own the customers or the subdivision owns the customers. so theres no build out other than the radio link for the WISP, which is close enough for af24, so its a WISP easy, even if we do the "last mile (50-100 feet)"
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 1) Never done it, but I'm pretty sure you bury conduit under the bottom. > 1a) Dunno. > 2) You put a handhole wherever you'll need to pull, or anywhere you'll > need to put a splice enclosure. > 3) Depends who wrote it. I think you'd have to read the terms of the > ROW/easement to know for sure. I had to cross a natural gas > pipeline.....they allow it, but their people had to be present for the > digging and they had some rules about marking the fiber. Railroad > easements are notoriously difficult to cross. > 4) An easement gives you permanent rights to something, and yes it stays > with the property. I'm not sure if it ever goes away. > 5) Dunno. Call the agency and ask them, or check their website. With > UFPO you can make the initial request on their website. > 5a) Someone pays? Not around here. > 6. pretty long. Do it anyway. Wireless won't meet demand forever and > you'll need to start getting into fiber to stay relevant in the long term. > 7. Google it.....but if it's just for these 8 houses why not 1"? You > won't need a very big cable. > 8. I'm not clear if you're looking for a cable or a vendor. For > underground you want loose tube fiber. I just got a quote this very day > for a 12 fiber loose tube for $0.31/foot. Something like that might be > fine. Add a single THHN to use as a locator. I'm willing to bet you can > do whatever they want with just that cable and some clever splicing. > 9. Google it. > 9a. I doubt it. Small Poly handholes (not traffic rated) are like $40. > "Small" is still big enough for a drop cable splice enclosure. For > traffic rated you're spending a few hundred per box....I'm still not sure > it's worth your labor time to make forms at that price, maybe if you're > really awesome at building forms. > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 6/20/2017 11:04:12 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] private community fiber network > > A few questions, this being a family estate property that was subdivided > into different lots. There are 8 current homes, haven't looked at a platt > map yet to see how the lots are legally divided, so there is that. This is > about interconnecting and somewhere in the mix bringing in interwebs. To > run past all the current lots is roughly 8050 feet. There would be 4 > "fingers" the longest being 3300 feet, passing 3 houses with the longest > distance between those 3 being 1400 feet, 300 feet of this would be > underwater. > This is not a ROW, issue, they don't want it in ROW, I assume they need > some sort of legal easement on record for the duct. I know zero about this. > Here are some questions: > 1. the underwater part. is that normally duct or just underwater fiber. > 1a. this pond is stocked by DNR, does that require some crummy permit to > drop fiber into even though its privately owned, I don't know what the > trade off is for DNR stocking. > 2. When passing a lot, do you normally put a handhole in each lot? > 3. if a utility ROW is crossed, does that need a permit? > 4. Whats the specific terminology, I think its easement, that makes the > duct accessible, like ROW, legally even if the property changes hands > 5. How does one get this buried cable/duct into a location service database > 5.a when a locate is called in who pays? (USIC is the locating agency > around here) > 6.how much longer will this list of questions get before it gets too hard > > In this instance, it will all be cut trench, that's free, for them. This > is all unincorporated land in a county. however there has been a history of > forced incorporation attempts. should that happen, what happens with this > duct? > > assuming there is some chatter on this, anticipate more detailed questions > on tech specs > >
