1) Never done it, but I'm pretty sure you bury conduit under the bottom.
1a) Dunno.
2) You put a handhole wherever you'll need to pull, or anywhere you'll
need to put a splice enclosure.
3) Depends who wrote it. I think you'd have to read the terms of the
ROW/easement to know for sure. I had to cross a natural gas
pipeline.....they allow it, but their people had to be present for the
digging and they had some rules about marking the fiber. Railroad
easements are notoriously difficult to cross.
4) An easement gives you permanent rights to something, and yes it stays
with the property. I'm not sure if it ever goes away.
5) Dunno. Call the agency and ask them, or check their website. With
UFPO you can make the initial request on their website.
5a) Someone pays? Not around here.
6. pretty long. Do it anyway. Wireless won't meet demand forever and
you'll need to start getting into fiber to stay relevant in the long
term.
7. Google it.....but if it's just for these 8 houses why not 1"? You
won't need a very big cable.
8. I'm not clear if you're looking for a cable or a vendor. For
underground you want loose tube fiber. I just got a quote this very day
for a 12 fiber loose tube for $0.31/foot. Something like that might be
fine. Add a single THHN to use as a locator. I'm willing to bet you
can do whatever they want with just that cable and some clever splicing.
9. Google it.
9a. I doubt it. Small Poly handholes (not traffic rated) are like $40.
"Small" is still big enough for a drop cable splice enclosure. For
traffic rated you're spending a few hundred per box....I'm still not
sure it's worth your labor time to make forms at that price, maybe if
you're really awesome at building forms.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 6/20/2017 11:04:12 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] private community fiber network
A few questions, this being a family estate property that was
subdivided into different lots. There are 8 current homes, haven't
looked at a platt map yet to see how the lots are legally divided, so
there is that. This is about interconnecting and somewhere in the mix
bringing in interwebs. To run past all the current lots is roughly 8050
feet. There would be 4 "fingers" the longest being 3300 feet, passing 3
houses with the longest distance between those 3 being 1400 feet, 300
feet of this would be underwater.
This is not a ROW, issue, they don't want it in ROW, I assume they need
some sort of legal easement on record for the duct. I know zero about
this.
Here are some questions:
1. the underwater part. is that normally duct or just underwater fiber.
1a. this pond is stocked by DNR, does that require some crummy permit
to drop fiber into even though its privately owned, I don't know what
the trade off is for DNR stocking.
2. When passing a lot, do you normally put a handhole in each lot?
3. if a utility ROW is crossed, does that need a permit?
4. Whats the specific terminology, I think its easement, that makes the
duct accessible, like ROW, legally even if the property changes hands
5. How does one get this buried cable/duct into a location service
database
5.a when a locate is called in who pays? (USIC is the locating agency
around here)
6.how much longer will this list of questions get before it gets too
hard
In this instance, it will all be cut trench, that's free, for them.
This is all unincorporated land in a county. however there has been a
history of forced incorporation attempts. should that happen, what
happens with this duct?
assuming there is some chatter on this, anticipate more detailed
questions on tech specs
