Context, context context... everyone has a different picture in their mind when the word "Mesh" is mentioned. However not everyone out there is 'stupid' as everyone here is making them out to be... Yes, there are those in the industry who simply what OPM (other peoples money) irrespective of any stated end goal....
Having said that, we are starting to see "multi-radio" AP's, so to answer your question, using a traditional single radio concept, the answer would be NO... however if you think of 'multi-radio' units, then the equation can change drastically.... For those who want to understand this concept better, take a look at what Xirrus did/does for high density Wifi deployment, granted they get a premium for their stuff, but their "AP" are multi-radio units, 2/4/8/16 with some combination of 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz... so fast forward technology, think of a multi-radio AP, using multiple 2.4ghz, 5Ghz and 60ghz radios, and now see how far this concept can go ? Now add to it the additional 64-75ghz band recently opened up by the FCC and now we can go a bit farther and a larger scaling the 'Mesh'. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:54:46 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > Will either of those protocols actually scale to a reasonable number of nodes? > > Jared > > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 > From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > With 60 ghz cheap radios and TRILL or SPB, I believe the multi backhaul Mesh > coulee be feasible. > > From: Af <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> on behalf of > "[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]"; > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > Reply-To: "[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]"; > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > Date: Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 9:34 AM > To: "[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]"; <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > > Years ago there was a product called, from what I remember, ClearMesh that was > very cool. It had 3 FSO > links built into that automatically tracked and found new mesh sites. It had > an > ethernet port that could be > fed fiber or to a customer. Range was something like 200M and cost ~$7,000 > each. > Could probably be done > a cheaper and more reliable with 24/60GHz. They were hyping it for a couple > years and I think it only was > on the market for less then a year before they went belly up. > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Robert > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> wrote:I tried to work > with an Orbi setup but the configuration was locked up against it's own config > controls.. i.e. broken. It uses _All_ of the top and bottom of the 5 Ghz > spectrum and no way to move it's usage around. > > On 6/24/17 7:41 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:Netgear Orbi does that with 4x4 > MU-MIMO > and multiple radios. Spendy though. > > - Josh > > On Jun 24, 2017 9:26 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]] > <mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]>> wrote: > > I agree with you.... I don't know how many times I've had to > explain to people why mesh doesn't work well. And have seen > numerous startups fail who think their magic routing voodoo will > make this work. It is one of those technologies which just > intuitively seems like should work, but doesn't for so many > different reasons. > > At some point someone is going to build a multi-radio beamforming > system which will actually result in the promise of mesh being > fulfilled without actually using what I would call mesh. With > beamforming and distinct radios, one could conceptionally build a > dynamic point to point backhaul system. > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]] > <mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]>> wrote: > > So someone rediscovered mesh? Umm, yea. $7M down the tubes. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]] > <mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]>] On Behalf >Of Faisal > Imtiaz > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM > To: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] ><mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M > investment? > > > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will > do this? > > All kidding aside, and while I am not going to specifically > comment on this particular story.... > > Having said that, you all should take a closer look at what Kent > Urwiller has been doing with his WISP, using Mimosa Gear. (Micro > Pops w/fat backhauls). > > His posts with a great amount of details can be found in the > Mimosa Group and RF Elements group on Facebook. > > Here is a small snippet from one of his recent posts.. "... > Pretty dang amazing really. We are seeing around 130-150 Mbps on > a 40 MHz channel to each client thanks to 2.3 and C5c. .." > > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518[tel:305 663 5518] x 232 <tel:(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518[tel:(305)663-5518] <tel:(305)%20663-5518> >Option 2 or > Email: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] > > <mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > To: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] ><mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 4:54:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M > investment? > > > "We use FCC-approved antennas that transmit data using 5 GHz > signals, > > similar to the radios in your wifi router, cell phone, or > iPad. These > > small antennas are installed at your home by professional > installers > > or through a simple self-setup process, then wired into your > wifi router." > > > > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will > do this? > > > > Good way to turn $7M into nothing. > > > > > > From: Gino A. Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:30 PM > > To: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] ><mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > Subject: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M > investment? > > > > Things that make you go ummï¿1Ž2 > > > > > >https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad[https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad] > ><https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad[https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad]> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. 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