I believe that will be our starting point, going to an isolated Ground bar.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Grounding discussion

At a minimum, I would isolate your ground bar from the tower and run your own 
down conductor and then ground all your mounts and equipment to your ground 
bar.  If that doesn't cut it you could try adding isolation between your mounts 
ant the tower but I doubt that is really needed.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Paul McCall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Lewis,

On option 2, if you are just leasing space on a tower such as Crown Castle, 
etc., I have doubts that they would allow me to install the 8’ rod at the top 
and run the 2/0 down the tower.  So, would you, just do a 2/0 starting at your 
equipment area, bond to the tower at that height, and go down from there?

On the “bonding everything together” scenario, if the tower ground is not as 
good as the other grounds going down the tower (mine, the cellular companies, 
etc.) won’t the differential in impedance cause the lightning to 1) likely take 
the lesser impedance path down and/or 2) have the voltage not rise and fall 
together and bad things happen from that?

Paul
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Grounding discussion

On 1. it will be really difficult to completely isolate a piece of equipment 
unless it is designed to float but good luck. If you are truly going to isolate 
everything from ground then you won't need to worry about #2 as all will float. 
You should check that the antenna you are using don't require a ground plane.
On 2. I Cadweld a 2/0 jacketed to an 8' rod at the top of the tower, not 
isolated. I then bond (15 ton Hydraulic Crimp) it to a bus bar 5' below the top 
for equipment grounds. Anywhere else there is a cluster of equipment I also put 
a bus bar. I then take that 2/0 to the bottom to the last bus bar and then into 
the ground ring.


  1.  Wondering what materials people are using to isolate their mounts?  What 
is sufficient?  Would the rubber from a thick radiator hose be enough to keep 
the lightning from coming through?  Double thicknesses?

One consultant recommended starboard, but I am not sure how I will craft that 
into a work piece that would mold around a tower leg and be able to grip it.


  1.  What size wire should be going down the tower to bond to my tower / 
electrical ground?

I am assuming it should be insulated but is normal THHN jacketing enough to 
have it truly isolate from something jumping over or does it have be in conduit.


Paul

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