It's funny to me that I was just on FS.com the other day and I saw they sell 
attenuators and I thought to myself, why on earth would you want to attenuate 
the signal? Now I know. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To clarify, there is no real intelligent attenuation on any optical product I 
> have ever seen. Some can do a 2-3db depending on the product, but it's never 
> really a truly intelligent system with bidirectional communication between 
> the optics to negotiate power levels.
> 
> I may be wrong but this is just my experience.
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2017 12:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> How could they? TX and RX are different optic sources. You might have a TX 
>> power level much higher on one end than the other due to manufacturing 
>> differences or different equipment.
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2017 12:10 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hmmm, that's not good if it can't auto-attenuate down.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like they need to fix that.
>>> 
>>> Most of my SMF lasers and links are short and 'hot', but doesn't seem to 
>>> bother anything I'm currently using.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>>> 
>>> I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT 
>>> and he shows me the error of my ways. I do not have a 50% failure rate. In 
>>> fact, it's a 0% failure rate. My signal was just too hot. I'm new to the SM 
>>> Fiber game, so I'm learning as I go. I didn't realize the signal could be 
>>> too hot at only -3 dB. All of my multi mode Fiber sits at -2 dB and works 
>>> really well.
>>> 
>>> You learn something new every day.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
>>> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I have heard a lot of complaints from DirectCom customers about their 
>>> > Fiber never being close to what they pay for, but that may be more 
>>> > related to the way it's throttled then the GPON.
>>> >
>>> > I've been playing with several of these ONT/OLT over the past week. I 
>>> > really like them. Though I have a 50% failure rate on the nanoG's. The 
>>> > fiber port breaks very easily.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you,
>>> > Brett A Mansfield
>>> >
>>> >> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:31 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> We have good luck with 32 customers per 2.4 Gbps down on GPON.  Lotsa 
>>> >> overhead.  No problems, not even close, so far.  And we are selling more 
>>> >> Gig circuits than ever before.
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson
>>> >> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:19 PM
>>> >> To: '[email protected]'
>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U 
>>> >> unit?
>>> >>
>>> >> I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet 
>>> >> for the OLT 1U unit.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the 
>>> >> rack already.
>>> >>
>>> >> If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some sort of 
>>> >> transition panel/setup right?
>>> >>
>>> >> Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home 
>>> >> connections.
>>> >>
>>> >> The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each, with 
>>> >> 20Gbps uplink capability (not quite sure on those split details yet).
>>> >>
>>> >> I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I could 
>>> >> easily use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units.
>>> >> If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get another 
>>> >> 576 panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and I'm done.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since I've 
>>> >> never actually done GPON.
>>> >>
>>> >> And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and instead 
>>> >> maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units.
>>> >> That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably still 
>>> >> take up 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U.
>>> >> And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON instead of 
>>> >> 72 which I like better for future use.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each of the 
>>> >> 8 ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total.
>>> >> So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than that per 
>>> >> each of the 8 GPON ports, right?

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