Interesting On Aug 1, 2017 10:01 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ONT's are sub $30. Put 200 subs on the chassis and see what your overall > cost is. You'll save about $7k. Also ZTE is 2 cards at 16 ports per card. > 32 total PON ports. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I saw ZTE starting at $2k plus. How is that cheaper? Also is the >> management via CLI? >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm surprised you are bothering with UBNT when a platform like ZTE is >> significantly more stable. Cheaper too. >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:35 PM Jason McKemie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The Calix active stuff is $$$$$ though, especially when you do the CSFP >>> modules. Something like the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber and Fiberstore >>> bidi SFPs is much more reasonable. I can sacrifice 1RU per 24 customers >>> for that kind of price difference. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:06 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> If I were you, I would take a serious look at GPON shelves like ZTE and >>>> Calix. CSFP modules let you put two BiDi AE customers on a single slot. 24 >>>> port line-card = 48 AE customers. Then I think you can do 8 or 16 port PON >>>> cards, 1:32 split = 256 or 512 customers on a single 3U? 4U? chassis, + the >>>> 48 AE customers. This is probably what we're going to end up doing with the >>>> AE deployment we're managing now. The AE is extremely underutilized and it >>>> should've been GPON from the get-go. >>>> >>>> If you're doing BiDi now and all the customers home-run to your >>>> cabinet, put the GPON splitters at the cabinet. Cake walk. Same boat we're >>>> in. Except some retrofit because they used a PAIR per customer. And >>>> Clearfield built everything duplex LC. So one strand won't get used in the >>>> field. Big whoop. Call the unused one a backup. I love it when nobody >>>> listens to me. Coulda started BiDi and went right to GPON with minimal >>>> changes. >>>> >>>> On 7/31/2017 3:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>>> >>> Ok, so that is the share ratio then. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If I put on 18 customers on a port they would all share the 2.5 down by >>>> 1.25 up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Or if I use 8 instead 4 of the UBNT Fiber OLT I can get 9 customers on >>>> that ratio. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That would be 8 U plus 4 U space, which I think is probably my max >>>> amount of rack space in the cabinets I am using right now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That is likely a lot less power than the 12U of 48 port switches I can >>>> use right now, but the share ratio is obviously much worse in the long run. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports >>>> active… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps >>>> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move >>>> them back to 1 to 1 active. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent: *Monday, July 31, 2017 3:19:36 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON >>>> >>>> Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U >>>> unit? >>>> >>>> I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet >>>> for the OLT 1U unit. >>>> >>>> Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the >>>> rack already. >>>> >>>> If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some sort of >>>> transition panel/setup right? >>>> >>>> Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home >>>> connections. >>>> >>>> The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each, with >>>> 20Gbps uplink capability (not quite sure on those split details yet). >>>> >>>> I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I could >>>> easily use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units. >>>> If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get another >>>> 576 panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and I'm done. >>>> >>>> I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since I've >>>> never actually done GPON. >>>> >>>> And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and >>>> instead maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units. >>>> That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably still >>>> take up 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U. >>>> And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON instead >>>> of 72 which I like better for future use. >>>> >>>> Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each of the >>>> 8 ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total. >>>> So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than that >>>> per each of the 8 GPON ports, right? >>>> >>>> -- >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> >
