Tyco 450A cases on the small stuff.   I like the PLP Coyote 6.5x17 dome 
closures better but I can’t get the price in the same ballpark as the 450A’s.

Mark

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
> 
> What are you using for cases in the hand-hole in this instance?
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com 
> <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I just bought another batch a 100 1x4 PLC Blockless Bare PLC fiber 
>> splitters...
>> 
>> Here's the lowdown what that is.
>> 
>> It's bare fiber, no 900um jacket and typically no ends.  It's 250um.  
>> Blockless means that you don't have the big PLC blocks that need to go in a 
>> case.
>> 
>> You can also get Blockless, and not bare, with ends on it.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:45 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Unless you are in high density subdivisions like I am, I would go with 
>> splitters in the splice case.  Saves a ton of money.  But you have to be 
>> committed to PON.  In our method, we can make any sub active with just 
>> opening the cabinet and moving a jumper. 
>>  
>> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 9:10 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>  
>> Direct splice versus cabinets and patch panels:
>>  
>> Direct splice is less expensive, reduces vulnerability to vehicle/plow 
>> damage, easy to test the drop cable, and only a single location needs to be 
>> visited to turn up a customer.
>>  
>> Cons are increased difficulty in troubleshooting and potentially reflection 
>> from unterminated cable (though I have not seen issues and several other 
>> have reported no issues).
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Now that I think of it, all of our splitters are in cross boxes with them 
>>> appearing on patch panels in the neighborhoods.  We insert a patch between 
>>> the splitter output to the strand going to the house during install time.  
>>> Each strand to the homes have their own place on the patch panel too. 
>>>  
>>> So, all of our splitter outputs are unterminated unless they are in use. 
>>>  
>>> From: Mark - Myakka Technologies <>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:41 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>>  
>>> Chuck,
>>> 
>>> We must have over 100 splitters installed that way.  I would say we only 
>>> average about 20 users on a 1x32.  We haven't seen any issues either.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best regards,
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>>> Friday, August 11, 2017, 9:48:53 AM, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>  <>
>>> 
>>> So far, I have not encountered a problem caused by unterminated lines.  I 
>>> think it is due to the fact that it is frequency division duplex and the 
>>> transmit reflections not only have to experience splitter loss on the 
>>> return trip but there are no receivers looking for energy in that 
>>> direction.  
>>> 
>>> From: Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:21 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>> 
>>> I have use the ‘bare’ FS PLC splitters before.   I can’t recall if the 
>>> pigtails had color or were just numbered but they are coated and strip off 
>>> exactly the same as the regular 250um acrylic coating.   For what it’s 
>>> worth they fit nicely into a Tyco A          or B size splice tray.   we 
>>> direct spliced one into a case and terminated all 32 outputs onto the 
>>> distribution cable.   
>>> 
>>> I don’t know that I would do that again simple because it creates a lot of 
>>> drops with no control over the reflection at the far end until you connect 
>>> those strands to customer houses or another termination panel.   So far it 
>>> has not created any operation issues but to some extent I think we just got 
>>> lucky.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you strip it, it sure looks bare.  All the color is gone.  
>>> After you strip it, you wipe it off with an alcohol wipe.  
>>> And then when you see it in the fusion splicer screen, it looks bare there 
>>> too.  
>>> Actually it probably has to be totally bare or the coating would 
>>> contaminate the burn.  
>>> 
>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:24 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>> 
>>> If the glass was truly "bare" it would be 125um and also be too fragile to 
>>> handle.  What is referred to as "bare fiber" actually has the 250um acrylic 
>>> coating, probably with color added.  It's the barest the fiber can be while 
>>> still being workable. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <>>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com <>" <af@afmug.com <>>
>>> Sent: 8/10/2017 6:24:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That must be it, the "bare fiber" description is a bit misleading in that 
>>> case though.  Strange way to specify the diameter.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A "bare fiber" pigtail has 250um acrylic coating.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <>
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Sent: 8/10/2017 6:07:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That sounds strange to me.  
>>> 
>>> Is there such a thing as PON on multi mode fiber?
>>> 
>>> From: Jason McKemie
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:37 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters
>>> 
>>> I'm looking to possibly do a trial GPON deployment on a leg of my active 
>>> network, it looks like the FS.com <http://fs.com/> PLC Splitters are 250µm. 
>>>  However, singlemode fiber is usually spec'd at a cladding of 125µm.  Are 
>>> they just using a different measurement or some sort of oddly sized fiber? 
>>> 
>>> -Jason
>> 
>>  
>> 

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