Tyco 450A cases on the small stuff. I like the PLP Coyote 6.5x17 dome closures better but I can’t get the price in the same ballpark as the 450A’s.
Mark > On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote: > > What are you using for cases in the hand-hole in this instance? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com > <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote: > >> I just bought another batch a 100 1x4 PLC Blockless Bare PLC fiber >> splitters... >> >> Here's the lowdown what that is. >> >> It's bare fiber, no 900um jacket and typically no ends. It's 250um. >> Blockless means that you don't have the big PLC blocks that need to go in a >> case. >> >> You can also get Blockless, and not bare, with ends on it. >> >> >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:45 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> >> wrote: >> Unless you are in high density subdivisions like I am, I would go with >> splitters in the splice case. Saves a ton of money. But you have to be >> committed to PON. In our method, we can make any sub active with just >> opening the cabinet and moving a jumper. >> >> From: Mark Radabaugh <> >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 9:10 AM >> To: af@afmug.com <> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >> >> Direct splice versus cabinets and patch panels: >> >> Direct splice is less expensive, reduces vulnerability to vehicle/plow >> damage, easy to test the drop cable, and only a single location needs to be >> visited to turn up a customer. >> >> Cons are increased difficulty in troubleshooting and potentially reflection >> from unterminated cable (though I have not seen issues and several other >> have reported no issues). >> >> Mark >> >>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <> wrote: >>> >>> Now that I think of it, all of our splitters are in cross boxes with them >>> appearing on patch panels in the neighborhoods. We insert a patch between >>> the splitter output to the strand going to the house during install time. >>> Each strand to the homes have their own place on the patch panel too. >>> >>> So, all of our splitter outputs are unterminated unless they are in use. >>> >>> From: Mark - Myakka Technologies <> >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:41 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com <> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> Chuck, >>> >>> We must have over 100 splitters installed that way. I would say we only >>> average about 20 users on a 1x32. We haven't seen any issues either. >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <> >>> >>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>> www.MyakkaTech.com <http://www.myakkatech.com/> >>> >>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life >>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL >>> <http://www.relayforlife.org/MyakkaCityFL> >>> >>> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html >>> <http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html> >>> ------ >>> >>> Friday, August 11, 2017, 9:48:53 AM, you wrote: >>> >>> <> >>> >>> So far, I have not encountered a problem caused by unterminated lines. I >>> think it is due to the fact that it is frequency division duplex and the >>> transmit reflections not only have to experience splitter loss on the >>> return trip but there are no receivers looking for energy in that >>> direction. >>> >>> From: Mark Radabaugh >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:21 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com <> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> I have use the ‘bare’ FS PLC splitters before. I can’t recall if the >>> pigtails had color or were just numbered but they are coated and strip off >>> exactly the same as the regular 250um acrylic coating. For what it’s >>> worth they fit nicely into a Tyco A or B size splice tray. we >>> direct spliced one into a case and terminated all 32 outputs onto the >>> distribution cable. >>> >>> I don’t know that I would do that again simple because it creates a lot of >>> drops with no control over the reflection at the far end until you connect >>> those strands to customer houses or another termination panel. So far it >>> has not created any operation issues but to some extent I think we just got >>> lucky. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> wrote: >>> >>> When you strip it, it sure looks bare. All the color is gone. >>> After you strip it, you wipe it off with an alcohol wipe. >>> And then when you see it in the fusion splicer screen, it looks bare there >>> too. >>> Actually it probably has to be totally bare or the coating would >>> contaminate the burn. >>> >>> From: Adam Moffett >>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:24 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com <> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> If the glass was truly "bare" it would be 125um and also be too fragile to >>> handle. What is referred to as "bare fiber" actually has the 250um acrylic >>> coating, probably with color added. It's the barest the fiber can be while >>> still being workable. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <>> >>> To: "af@afmug.com <>" <af@afmug.com <>> >>> Sent: 8/10/2017 6:24:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> >>> That must be it, the "bare fiber" description is a bit misleading in that >>> case though. Strange way to specify the diameter. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> A "bare fiber" pigtail has 250um acrylic coating. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <> >>> To: af@afmug.com <> >>> Sent: 8/10/2017 6:07:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> >>> That sounds strange to me. >>> >>> Is there such a thing as PON on multi mode fiber? >>> >>> From: Jason McKemie >>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:37 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com <> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] PLC Splitters >>> >>> I'm looking to possibly do a trial GPON deployment on a leg of my active >>> network, it looks like the FS.com <http://fs.com/> PLC Splitters are 250µm. >>> However, singlemode fiber is usually spec'd at a cladding of 125µm. Are >>> they just using a different measurement or some sort of oddly sized fiber? >>> >>> -Jason >> >> >>