I went through about a dozen SMs on 14.2.1 and 15.x where an upgrade key appeared to work the first time, change QoS settings and reboot, but they'd boot back up saying it was invalid and the QoS would be capped at the previous license tier. Apply the key and QoS again, reboot and then it was fine. Cambium couldn't reproduce it. But the last handful I've done over the past few months have worked the first time. Maybe it was just those radios. I have no freakin clue.

On 8/17/2017 11:34 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
So after getting the 450M upgraded, it now has the option to use EITHER the SFP port or the copper port. Using fiber for payload and coper for management doesn't seem to be an option, at least yet.

Bidi SFPs seem to work fine.  My uncoded FS ones show up like:

SFP Part Details :      
Fiberstore SFP-GE-BX, serial number N0707260011, date code 170727


The SFP port on the 450M is not set in the center of the hole but rather sits closer to the antenna side so clearance is going to be an issue with some SFPs. The kit has what appears to be a custom machined extended metal gland which does a pretty good job of fixing the design flaw with the SFP port.

With the license applied, the Board Model shows up like:

Board Model :   
C050045A102A
P005208
P005208



Could be because I went to the license url a second time when I first set it up and there was still no SFP option showing in the GUI.


Cost for the kit is ~$300 which included the SFP worth $10, the gland worth $30 (only because they have to have them custom machined to get around the design problem), and $260 license to use the port.


On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Jon Langeler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    How much is it?

    Jon Langeler
    Michwave Technologies, Inc.


    On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license.



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    *From: *"Carl Peterson" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

    Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied
    it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or
    any way to tell it to use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid
    and missing something?

    On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        Thanks Mark,

        Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the
        glands that come with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've
        ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it fits and test out
        BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at
        the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test
        them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish
        everyone would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at
        least on gear costing multiple Ks.

        On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Carl,

            I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and
            for some reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s
            and not 450M.

            The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to
            fit in the 450m.   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at
            the moment.  We are supposed to be getting 4 in tomorrow
            and I can try it and let you know if it fits.

            We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC
            supplies through a CMM5

            And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I
            have not tried a BiDi SFP yet.

            Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the
            head :-)

            Mark


                On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Matt,

                While I have your attention, I have two more 450M
                questions.

                1) What are the supported POE pinouts?

                2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e
                isolated ground?

                It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have
                LOVED to see and SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most
                Siklu gear.

                On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    In this day and age…

                    From: Af <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Mike
                    Hammett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Reply-To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
                    To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

                    A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?



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                    *From: *"Matt Mangriotis"
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

                    Carl –


                    1)Not sure on this… I have asked engineering
                    about support for BIDA module (not BIDI?), and
                    will post an answer when I get one…

                    2)Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes
                    with the kit.  The kit consists of three parts:
                    the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
                    the entitlement key to apply the license to the
                    radio.


                    Matt

                    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On
                    Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
                    *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs


                    1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get
                    the license to unlock the SFP port on the 450M,
                    but once the license is applied, is there any
                    limitation as to what SFPs you can run? Would
                    much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run
                    clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we
                    don't have to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested
                    other SFPs in it and have any not worked?


                    2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the
                    case and has very little space in the antenna
                    side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium
                    gland in whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit
                    come with a special gland with room for the SFP
                    and connector?








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