holy cow, we just became a nationwide ISP. Im big time right now, Im gonna
need to get a huge hat

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> It doesn't matter whose infrastructure it is. Whomever bills the end-user
> claims the subscriber.
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, August 28, 2017 10:19:52 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
>
> reselling a connection is legit for 477 purposes? We do that but i never
> claimed it since its not our infrastructure.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Bob Telephone Company from Bob, Montana probably doesn't have any
>> customers in Missouri. That sort of thing.
>>
>> As Cameron suggested, some is from billing address vs. installation
>> address. Some is geocoding errors. Some is just crappy systems. Some might
>> actually be that they are selling someone a T1 service way out of area. In
>> that last case, it would be legit.
>>
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, August 28, 2017 9:27:24 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
>>
>>
>> Maybe they resell something in that other location.  If they're using a
>> system (like Plat) which generates covered blocks based on where your
>> customers are, then something you resell in another area would show up in
>> the report.
>>
>> I'm wondering what the opinion is on partially covered blocks these
>> days.  If you cover a portion of a census block, do you claim it or not?  I
>> think many operators (including some large ones) are claiming coverage of
>> any census block they touch.  I've heard at least one claim that it's a
>> defensive move to prevent people getting government funding to overbuild
>> them.  Incidentally, it also prevents *yourself *from getting government
>> funding to build there so I'm thinking it isn't such a wise choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 8/28/2017 9:36:02 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
>>
>> On your Federal Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated
>> coverage is at least somewhat representative of what you actually cover. In
>> doing some market research, I keep finding ISPs (not just WISPs) obviously
>> based out of one or two towns in one state, but have claimed some census
>> blocks in other states. This seems very much so an error in the filing and
>> not an expansion network.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>
>>
>>
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