dispatching for pc support? do you charge for service calls? I can se willy
nilly dispatch if you charge, revenue driver.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Matt Hoppes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> No.. that's what outsourced should have determined what the issue was.
> Radio is up... customer has no Internet - dispatch.
>
> On 9/1/17 3:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
>>
>> We got a call today from a customer who also was down last week.....
>> radio looks fine.....Router has a connection.....If This Were outsourced
>> to tech support where they kick it back to us?
>>
>> Looks like we will be sending someone out there anyway it might even be
>> an id10terror....
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>> Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 11:39 AM
>>
>> youre not going to have them powercycle or verify things are plugged in
>> correctly? that's ALOT of truck rolls
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Matt Hoppes
>> <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Exactly... I just signed up with SP and my decision tree is going to
>>     be extremely simple and straight forward... so easy even a cave man
>>     can do it.
>>
>>     Is your router on?   Are you connected to your router?  Can you ping
>>     your router?  Can you ping our modem?  Can I ping our modem?  Do you
>>     get proper speeds when plugged into our modem?
>>
>>     ESCALATE.   What else is there to troubleshoot locally?  Unless your
>>     network is @#$@#.
>>
>>     This entire process should take sub 5 minutes to complete.
>>
>>     END RESULT:
>>     Your computer is borked.
>>     Your router is borked.
>>     Our connection to you is borked -- dispatch.
>>
>>     On 9/1/17 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>         I have good luck with ServerPlus.  Part of the quality you get
>>         from them
>>         depends on the quality of the decision tree you give them.
>>
>>         *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:22 PM
>>         *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>
>>         Not surprising, but sad to hear things haven’t changed one bit
>> with
>>         ServerPlus in the years since I swore I would never use them
>>         again, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>>         *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:45 PM
>>         *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>
>>
>>         Supposed to specifically state not to ask for a mac from box.
>>         Because it
>>         was an issue. But, i bet we get an accurate bill. The bills are
>>         always
>>         consistent. The level of irate i have right now excedes my bac,
>>         thats
>>         pretty high at 944 pm
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Aug 31, 2017 9:31 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>>         <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>             That idea is coming from somewhere and I too would think it
>>         comes
>>             from the DT.  None of my calls say anything about MAC (we
>>         NAT our SM).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             Josh Luthman
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>> <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>             1100 Wayne St
>>             Suite 1337
>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>             On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Mike Hammett
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                 What does your DT say to do?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>                 *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                 *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:25:38 PM
>>
>>
>>                 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>                 Reviving a dead one, cause i can.
>>
>>                 So serverplus, no matter how many times you ask them to
>>         stop,
>>                 still asks customers for the mac off their router, even
>>         though
>>                 95 percent of the routers on the market list the freaking
>>                 wireless mac. They cant seem to follow simple poe
>>         instructions,
>>                 constantly escalating (and billing) when they hook poes
>>         up backward.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 If you have another option, look into it. Because right
>>         now, ill
>>                 get a follow up, solely because of this post, as i did
>>         from the
>>                 original post im replying to.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 I dont mind our own mopes being mopes. I dont even ming
>> paid
>>                 mopes being mopes. What i dont like is mopes, billing us
>> for
>>                 mopery, and escalating response to being mopes when
>>         called out
>>                 in public only. Promising to deescalate the mopery, and
>>                 continuing to be mopes and billing for mopery.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 At this point, direct dialing saudi arabia is a better
>>         option.
>>                 At least when amrut answers the phone, our customers
>>                 expectations drop to the level of outsource. And amrut
>> will
>>                 actually be consistent.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Jul 12, 2017 7:10 AM, "Josh Luthman"
>>                 <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                     I'm not Direct TV and don't want to be compared to
>> them.
>>
>>                     Josh Luthman
>>                     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>         <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>                     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>         <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>                     1100 Wayne St
>>                     Suite 1337
>>                     Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On Jul 11, 2017 10:43 PM, "Darin Steffl"
>>                     <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                         I am happy what we pay with the average hold times
>>                         averaging 1-2 minutes. Our residential subs
>>         don't need
>>                         hold times any shorter than that for after hours
>>                         support. Compared to our other WISP's, we're the
>>         only
>>                         one that offers 24/7 support anyway so we're
>> already
>>                         ahead of the competition there.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I know when I call DirecTV or Verizon,
>>         Centurylink, I
>>                         almost always wait at least 3-5 minutes before I
>>         get a
>>                         rep. Not always but usually.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Josh Luthman
>>                         <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                             I would pay 30% more from my current rates
>>         to reduce
>>                             it to sub 30 seconds.
>>
>>                             Josh Luthman
>>                             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>         <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>                             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>         <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>                             1100 Wayne St
>>                             Suite 1337
>>                             Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>                             On Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PM, "Chuck McCown"
>>                             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>                                 I am in the camp of “screw em”, let them
>>         hold or
>>                                 else they can call us in the morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 I would probably feel different if you
>>         were the
>>                                 first point of contact for all calls.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 But we take our calls directly during most
>>                                 waking & working hours.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 *From:*Layne Sisk
>>
>>                                 *Sent:*Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:30 PM
>>
>>                                 *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>                                 *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]
>>         Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 So Steve, I am not sure I fully
>>         understand the
>>                                 questions you are posing here, but I
>>         believe it
>>                                 is a simple integration issue that we can
>>                                 resolve easily.   Since you have been
>>         live with
>>                                 us less than 2 weeks I am sure it is
>>         simply a
>>                                 setting that can be adjusted.  I will
>>         email you
>>                                 off-list so we can set up a call to
>>         address the
>>                                 concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 To address the comments mentioned by
>>         some others
>>                                 in the thread:
>>
>>
>>
>>                                  1. We do not route calls overseas
>>         unless it has
>>                                     been authorized by the ISP.  The
>>         exception
>>                                     mentioned on the list here is that
>>         if and
>>                                     ISP has a complete outage and has
>> 50-100
>>                                     calls drop into queue before the
>>         outage is
>>                                     identified we may use the overseas
>>         agents to
>>                                     simply pick up the call and confirm
>>         to the
>>                                     customer there is an outage.  Once the
>>                                     outage is identified we put a
>>         message up on
>>                                     the phone system to stop the influx of
>>                                     calls.  Jeremy if that was a deal
>>         breaker
>>                                     for you we would certainly have
>>         looked for
>>                                     an alternative, sorry that created a
>>                                     problem.  For us it is a balance to
>> make
>>                                     sure that one ISPs outage does not
>>         create
>>                                     long hold times for all other clients.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                  2. Our average hold time is typically
>>         between 1
>>                                     and 2 minutes.  For example today it
>> is
>>                                     1:33.  Month to date it is approx.
>>         1:28.  It
>>                                     is certainly possible to shorten
>>         that time,
>>                                     but not while maintaining our standard
>>                                     pricing structure.  It is a balance
>>         between
>>                                     cost and service, much in the same
>>         way that
>>                                     a WISP can usually provide more
>>         bandwidth
>>                                     but the balance between cost and
>>         speed has
>>                                     to be considered.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                  3. We definitely do not have a
>>         mandatory hold
>>                                     time, only an average which we are
>>         always
>>                                     working to decrease, most customers
>>         calls
>>                                     are answered within seconds.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 I would pose a question to the group,
>>         would you
>>                                 be willing to pay say 30% more for the
>>         service,
>>                                 if the hold times dropped by 30
>>         seconds?  Most
>>                                 people I have spoken with have said no,
>>         but it
>>                                 was admittedly a small sample size.  We
>> have
>>                                 considered a scaled pricing model with a
>>         hold
>>                                 time SLA of  < 3 min, < 2 min, < 1 min.
>>          What
>>                                 are your thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Layne Sisk
>>
>>                                 ServerPlus
>>
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>>
>>                                 *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>] *On
>>                                 Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>                                 *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 9:49 PM
>>                                 *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
>> Serverplus/powercode
>>
>>                                 users, OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 I also meant offlist, not OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones"
>>                                 <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                                     Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the
>>         email
>>                                     ticket formatting is night and day
>>         awful,
>>                                     why bother with an api if you cant
>>         actually
>>                                     tell what the heck is happening. ...
>> and
>>                                     the  api generated ticket cant be
>>         reassigned
>>                                     for the customer, though i believe
>>         thats a
>>                                     powercode issue... and given the "new"
>>                                     powercode, i dont see that getting
>>                                     fixed....simon... simon, where are
>> you?
>>
>>
>>
>>                                     On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve
>> Jones"
>>                                     <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                                         Im not sure how they pay, but it
>>         looks
>>                                         alot like when we used to
>>         comission new
>>                                         sales, a new account for each
>>         call based
>>                                         on who answered the phone.... if
>>         thats
>>                                         tje case, comission calls, then
>>         why bother
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         Ive seen multiple existing tickets
>>                                         restarted... bad juju on that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         Anybody know if they actually
>>         look at
>>                                         existing tickets?
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         Closing and resolving unresolved
>>         issues
>>                                         is bad business for me too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         Im thinking its just a matter of
>>         getiing
>>                                         on the same page, but if others
>>         have had
>>                                         similar issues and found
>>         workarounds ...
>>                                         or walked away, please let me
>> know.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         Serverplus was not my first
>>         choice for
>>                                         an outsourced it, so i may be
>> jaded.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                         On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve
>>         Jones"
>>                                         <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                                             Not impressed, a short time
>>         in, by
>>                                             any means. Serverplus guys, no
>>                                             offense, i need info to make
>>         this
>>                                             work outside a retention
>>         response. I
>>                                             know luthman uses them, but
>>         anyone
>>                                             else with powercode, please
>>         OT me so
>>                                             i can find out whats broke
>>         on our
>>                                             side before i have the boss
>>         talk.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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