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On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the > COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile > Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they > look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could > send some of these for rescue and recovery ? > > On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't >> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it >> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the >> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and >> ships are queued. >> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military >> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary >> docks or something. >> >> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged >> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they >> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business >> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems >>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS >>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with >>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a >>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from >>> Gino yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> >>> Brian Webster >>> >>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> Cooperstown, NY 13326 >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> (607) 643-4055 Office >>> >>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile >>> >>> (208) 692-1898 Fax >>> Skype: Radiowebst >>> >>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>> >>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM >>> *To:* Animal Farm >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >>> >>> >>> >>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat? And >>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club >>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Steve Jones >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >>> >>> >>> >>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts >>> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term >>> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be >>> able to find its way onto military transport >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you >>> could get it there. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to ship you COWs? I can build a few and send them. Not >>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >>> >>> >>> >>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded). Need >>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.) >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Lewis Bergman < >>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Date: *Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM >>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino >>> >>> >>> >>> Yep, exactly what I said. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> >>> President >>> >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring >>> internet service..... >>> >>> >>> >>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve >>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... >>> >>> One.... How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our >>> Infrastructure. >>> >>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any >>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the >>> Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, >>> then such functional infrastructure is of little value. >>> >>> >>> >>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just >>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of >>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free >>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get >>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere) >>> >>> >>> >>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true >>> severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes >>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >>> supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino >>> >>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything >>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose >>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers >>> will pay for. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are >>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] >>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone >>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline >>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or >>> pray, everything is dead in the water. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general >>> cleanup like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and >>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried >>> utilities. Generators are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 >>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are >>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just >>> damaged but totally missing. What is there still is water damaged or has >>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration >>> >>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut >>> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, >>> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have >>> smartmeters and starbucks >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie < >>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>> >>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a >>> lot of other Caribbean islands. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind >>> and/or solar power. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> >>> North Central Tower >>> >>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>> >>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804> >>> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. >>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short >>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that >>> may be optimistic. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I am wondering >>> of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR? >>> >>> ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter >>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure >>> damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully >>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk >>> that work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.ï¿1Ž2 >>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>
