How on earth does someone buy that many guns and that much ammo without setting off all sorts of sirens? You would think ATF would have some sort of triggers set for when someone buys a bunch of guns and ammo.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > 59 dead, 527 injured,. 18 more guns found at one home with thousands of > rounds plus electronics of some kind. > > On Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> s/clip/magazine >> >> Sorry Bill, had to. >> >> On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or >> 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon >> fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big >> clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as >> "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6 >> or 7 clips. >> >> There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if >> it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >> >> >> How long did this event last? >> From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he >> killed himself ? >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting >> Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM >> >> I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find a >> motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard from >> them yet. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting >> >> >> >> +1, let's please not get into a political fight. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting >> >> >> >> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of >> extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical >> reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the >> opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political >> discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like >> everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to >> do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such >> things. >> >> >> >> I would hope to head off any political debates on the list. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I had never seen these bump stop devices. It is hard to believe that >> they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license. I expect that >> will not last. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Well crazy is crazy no matter what. I don't care what allegiance they >> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person. People died >> for no good reason. As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to >> guns has got to change. Fuck the politics. >> >> >> >> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well that is some relief. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> FBI says no... >> >> On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: >> >> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not >> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary. >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas >> hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who >> don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room >> or whatever. >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> 10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel >> luggage transport >> >> On Oct 2, 2017 10:35 AM, "Jaime Solorza" >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> Bet you surveillance footage is getting analyzed. I am >> aware guns can be disassembled to fit in suitcase or travel >> bags...but 10 guns if report is accurate...wow. >> On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "Robert" <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Expect metal detectors going in immediately... >> >> On 10/2/17 7:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: >> >> I won't be surprised if there were baggage checks at >> the casino. >> >> Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> It would be irrational to change your plans, but >> we're all just people. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>>< >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >> <https://plus.google.com/+Inte >> lligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>><https://www.linkedin.com/ >> company/intelligent-computing-solutions >> <https://www.linkedin.com/comp >> any/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL >> >> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>>< >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >> <https://www.linkedin.com/comp >> any/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix >> >> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>> >> The Brothers WISP >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/chann >> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/chann >> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>> >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" >> <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> *Sent: *Monday, October 2, 2017 9:44:58 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting >> >> I wonder if attendance to the WISPA show will be >> down from this >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Jay Weekley >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> A week later and some of us may have been >> at the concert. >> >> Robert wrote: >> >> A best friend and his brother were >> there and had bullets >> wizzing by him and hitting the ground >> around him and had >> people falling around him. >> >> On 10/2/17 4:12 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> I have a co-worker who is there on >> a vacation for his >> birthday until Wednesday. 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