Very easy. Anyone can buy ammo. Here in California, which us one of the
harder places to buy firearms, I can buy 12 handguns a year. One every 30
days. My wife can do the same. Long guns currently are as many as you can
afford.

On Oct 2, 2017 3:26 PM, "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

> How on earth does someone buy that many guns and that much ammo without
> setting off all sorts of sirens?  You would think ATF would have some sort
> of triggers set for when someone buys a bunch of guns and ammo.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 59 dead, 527 injured,. 18 more guns found at one home with thousands of
>> rounds plus electronics of some kind.
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> s/clip/magazine
>>>
>>> Sorry Bill, had to.
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or
>>> 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon
>>> fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big
>>> clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as
>>> "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6
>>> or 7 clips.
>>>
>>> There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if
>>> it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How long did this event last?
>>> From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he
>>> killed himself ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM
>>>
>>> I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find
>>> a motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard
>>> from them yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, let's please not get into a political fight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>
>>> From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of
>>> extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical
>>> reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the
>>> opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political
>>> discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like
>>> everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to
>>> do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such
>>> things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would hope to head off any political debates on the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had never seen these bump stop devices.  It is hard to believe that
>>> they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license.  I expect that
>>> will not last.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they
>>> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died
>>> for no good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to
>>> guns has got to change.  Fuck the politics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that is some relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> FBI says no...
>>>
>>> On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not
>>> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas
>>>     hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who
>>>     don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room
>>>     or whatever.
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones
>>>
>>>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel
>>>         luggage transport
>>>
>>>         On Oct 2, 2017 10:35 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
>>>
>>>         <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             Bet you surveillance footage is getting analyzed.  I am
>>>             aware guns can be disassembled to fit in suitcase or travel
>>>             bags...but 10 guns if report is accurate...wow.
>>>             On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com
>>>
>>>             <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Expect metal detectors going in immediately...
>>>
>>>                 On 10/2/17 7:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>
>>>                     I won't be surprised if there were baggage checks at
>>>                     the casino.
>>>
>>>                     Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
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>>>                         we're all just people.
>>>
>>>
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>>>                         *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser"
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>>>                         *Sent: *Monday, October 2, 2017 9:44:58 AM
>>>                         *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>                         I wonder if attendance to the WISPA show will be
>>>                         down from this
>>>
>>>                         On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Jay Weekley
>>>                         <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>                         <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>
>>>                         <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>
>>>
>>>                         <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                              A week later and some of us may have been
>>>                         at the concert.
>>>
>>>                              Robert wrote:
>>>
>>>                                  A best friend and his brother were
>>>                         there and had bullets
>>>                                  wizzing by him and hitting the ground
>>>                         around him and had
>>>                                  people falling around him.
>>>
>>>                                  On 10/2/17 4:12 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>>                                      I have a co-worker who is there on
>>>                         a vacation for his
>>>                                      birthday until Wednesday. Haven't
>>>                         heard from him yet.
>>>
>>>                                      On Oct 2, 2017 5:51 AM, "Forrest
>>>                         Christian (List Account)"
>>>                                      <li...@packetflux.com
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>>>
>>>                                          I'm not really even sure what
>>>                         to say.  This keeps
>>>                                      getting worse and
>>>                                          worse as more details come in.
>>>
>>>                                          A different festival on a
>>>                         different night and I could
>>>                                      have been
>>>                                          among the crowd.  Makes it even
>>>                         more real.
>>>
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