If you have charter talk to somebody in WBI aka wholesale who can give you 
better rate then what regular business can give you.  

Tim



 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 10/06/17 03:28
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


I charge you for the Coke ?  and the Fries separate from the Burger ? 
or do you want to do a Combo Package ? 


Most people often forget that for a Tier 1 provider, there is NO COST of IP 
TRANSIT..
the cost is all but the cost of infrastructure, maintenance  and operations...


So, weather it is translated into a 'pay for DIA' or pay for 'Port'  it is all 
a matter of presentation.


Is the internet access going to go to Zero Cost ?   NO it is not (ever !)


Is the 'premium' charge for internet access going to become negligible ?   Yes 
it is ... 




My 2 cents worth ...


BTW, we will be more than happy to sell IP Transit out of our POP's for less 
than the rate we pay for to our UPstreams !


(Dallas / Miami/ Atlanta, Ashburn)


Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 10:41:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


Where you own the fiber.  I am talking about zero for DIA.  Port charges only. 

 
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!
 
Where is transit zero?



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


I know of one case where it is zero now. 

 
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!
 
It won't hit zero, the metric will just shift to gigabit.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:18:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


The trend is toward zero.  Just port charges. 
 
Just like long distance did 10 years ago. 

 
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!
 

You may be paying in the lowest rate bracket for the amount of bandwidth. I've 
never heard anything lower unless you were in the 100G+ bracket.

 
On Oct 5, 2017 5:21 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I pay rates lower than 5 cents per meg...

 

From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!
 
For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that actually 
sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the 100-300 meg 
range. 
 
You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA unless you are buying a 
10gig circuit in a datacenter or other very competitive market.
 
Long term, arranging transport to a data center is the right direction, but it 
usually isn't cost effective until you are over 1Gig of traffic. Unless you 
happen to be close to stimulus built fiber you can connect to really cheap.

 
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Al Rachide <alrach...@gmail.com> wrote:

We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, just to 
the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding throughout 
three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number of post where others are 
claiming rates as low as $0.20 per mbit/sec, we can't get anything here for 
less than $2.20 per mbit/sec, PLUS a fixed loop fee of $750.00 per month per 
pop. So, how can we find a cheaper backhaul solution here in the boonies of NC? 
We have CenturyLink and Spectrum available for local connection, but would like 
to know about other options for the actual internet / backhaul connection. PS: 
We attended our first WISPA convention in Memphis and it will not be the last!

 
Al Rachide
Eastern Caroline Broadband, LLC
Pink Hill, NC 28572


 

 
 
 




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