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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 09:16, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > > He always has a choice. > >> On Oct 18, 2017 7:14 AM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> He didn't have a choice. His cloud-based billing provider went out of >> business and sold to sonar. So he doesn't even really have the option of >> running old software, he's being forced to upgrade. >> >>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 07:55, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Please don't become a Sonar customer just to demonize them because you >>> don't like their service model. >>> >>> Seriously. That'd be a super shitty thing to do. >>> >>>> On Oct 18, 2017 6:52 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I will be using it shortly as Sonar bought WISPMon. >>>> >>>> All of the major billing\OSS platforms with modern features are also >>>> cloud-based, so there's not really anywhere else to go. >>>> >>>> That's fine for you that it works that way, but many WISPs are increasing >>>> their use of on-premises virtualization. What about your monitoring, DNS, >>>> RADIUS, syslog, Unimus, mail, etc., etc. servers? >>>> >>>> Yes, my reasons do outweigh arbitrary reasons to keep it in a cloud >>>> environment. >>>> >>>> Actually, I've been fairly quiet on this particular issue and will be >>>> increasing my advocacy efforts in this regard to all billing\OSS >>>> platforms. As I said, it's the SFP port of the billing\OSS world. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:08:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar >>>> >>>> I'm in agreement with Simon that it's much faster and reliable to host in >>>> the cloud than a server on site. It would cost me many more hours, hand >>>> holding, and worry if I had to host this server in my network. If I went >>>> on vacation and something happened, I'd be stressed. >>>> >>>> With sonar living in the cloud, there's less to worry about as it's hosted >>>> in a much more reliable datacenter than I could afford to build. It's also >>>> managed by sonar's team so if there's an issue, they take care of it. >>>> Stress free for me. >>>> >>>> I see why you might want to host it in house but those reasons do NOT >>>> outweigh all the benefits of letting sonar host it in the cloud for you >>>> and take care of the problems. >>>> >>>> Mike, if you don't like Simon's decision to leave it in the cloud, shut up >>>> and move on. There's no reason for you and Matt Hoppes to keep beating a >>>> dead horse and sound like a broken record. Use something else you're happy >>>> with and let the rest of us grow our business and make more $$ while you >>>> two complain about a product you don't even use. Jeez ha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:31 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> On 10/17/17 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>>> Expect repeated harassment until a good reason is presented or you >>>>>> capitulate. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the SFP of the billing\OSS world. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I always welcome my competitors to have external dependencies. When they >>>>> try to hand wave their problems away as vendor or cloud problems it helps >>>>> me gain new customers. >>>>> >>>>> ~Seth >>>>
