Brett - try KeePass.  It's Android/iphone/mac/Windows

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On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I don’t like password managers. They make logging into things take
> forever. Also, I haven’t found one for Mac that I like.
>
> I was first talking about my password when setting it up. It doesn’t
> matter if it is customer facing or my admin password, I should be able to
> choose my level of security. An 8 character password is secure enough for
> me and my small organization.
>
> But customer passwords certainly need to be easier and more relaxed.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:28 AM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I just realized you were talking about customer facing passwords, which
> absolutely should be somewhat easy as people seem to be pretty blase' about
> their password security, but anyone with a lick of tech knowledge should be
> using a password manager with a random long password for every site. I use
> 1password which has apps for Windows, osx, ios, android and browser
> extensions. Then every password is as long as the site will let me with
> random characters.
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oh no, admin password should be very strong. But I am just barely playing
>> with this for the first time and I didn’t know they made it so you can
>> change the requirements. I’m quite impressed with sonar so far. It looks
>> like it will take a very long time to setup because of how many features
>> there are.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, for the customers.  That is a different kettle of pickles.  I agree,
>> customer passwords can be less secure in my opinion.
>> I thought you were talking about your admin password.
>>
>> *From:* Brett A Mansfield
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:50 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>>
>> I can tell already that it will be a serious challenge. I have a lot of
>> customers that will be calling me just to complain that they cannot get
>> into their account because the password requirements are too strict and
>> they forgot their password again.
>>
>> Should I not be able to choose my own password requirements?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely not.
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:32:07 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>>
>> Anyone here that uses sonar find the password requirements to be too
>> strict? 12 character requirement.
>>
>> When it comes to passwords, I should get to choose any password I want
>> when I’m paying someone for a service. I have the same issue with Apples
>> new stuff.
>>
>> I just spun up a new instance of sonar to try it out. I haven’t even
>> passed the password change screen yet and I think I’ve already decided to
>> cancel.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>>
>>
>

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