Thanks. I’ll check it out.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Oct 27, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Brett - try KeePass.  It's Android/iphone/mac/Windows
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don’t like password managers. They make logging into things take forever. 
>> Also, I haven’t found one for Mac that I like.
>> 
>> I was first talking about my password when setting it up. It doesn’t matter 
>> if it is customer facing or my admin password, I should be able to choose my 
>> level of security. An 8 character password is secure enough for me and my 
>> small organization. 
>> 
>> But customer passwords certainly need to be easier and more relaxed. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:28 AM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just realized you were talking about customer facing passwords, which 
>>> absolutely should be somewhat easy as people seem to be pretty blase' about 
>>> their password security, but anyone with a lick of tech knowledge should be 
>>> using a password manager with a random long password for every site. I use 
>>> 1password which has apps for Windows, osx, ios, android and browser 
>>> extensions. Then every password is as long as the site will let me with 
>>> random characters.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Oh no, admin password should be very strong. But I am just barely playing 
>>>> with this for the first time and I didn’t know they made it so you can 
>>>> change the requirements. I’m quite impressed with sonar so far. It looks 
>>>> like it will take a very long time to setup because of how many features 
>>>> there are. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, for the customers.  That is a different kettle of pickles.  I agree, 
>>>>> customer passwords can be less secure in my opinion. 
>>>>> I thought you were talking about your admin password. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Brett A Mansfield
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:50 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>>>>>  
>>>>> I can tell already that it will be a serious challenge. I have a lot of 
>>>>> customers that will be calling me just to complain that they cannot get 
>>>>> into their account because the password requirements are too strict and 
>>>>> they forgot their password again. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Should I not be able to choose my own password requirements?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Absolutely not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:32:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone here that uses sonar find the password requirements to be too 
>>>>>> strict? 12 character requirement. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When it comes to passwords, I should get to choose any password I want 
>>>>>> when I’m paying someone for a service. I have the same issue with Apples 
>>>>>> new stuff. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just spun up a new instance of sonar to try it out. I haven’t even 
>>>>>> passed the password change    screen yet and I think I’ve already 
>>>>>> decided to cancel.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>>>  
>>> 
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