If you have call waiting, you'll often hear the caller id 'data burp' after
the first 'call is waiting' beep...

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Remember, the signal comes between rings. Unless you are listening on a
> butt set in line or watching the info pass through a switch you wouldn't
> see or hear it. The only reason I remembered between first and second is
> sitting at a class 5 switch trying to figure out why caller ID was failing
> on a feature group D trunk group and seeing them come through after one
> ringy dingy.
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:46 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it at an inaudible frequency?  If so, then it wouldn't make it through
>> 2600hz bandpass filters would it?  Or maybe it's audible, but so short you
>> don't notice it? I'm fuzzy on this.
>>
>> I probably shouldn't ask.  I don't need to know that much about POTS
>> anymore.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/9/2017 4:40:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question
>>
>> More info than anyone probably wants to know. I found this about the
>> original question:
>> Caller-ID Signaling
>>
>> According to Telcordia specifications, CND signaling starts as early as
>> 300 mS after the first ring burst and ends at least 475 mS before the
>> second ring burst
>>
>> From here: http://www.tech-faq.com/caller-id.html
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:29 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I did not know that tone contained modulated data.  I just thought it
>>> was a noise you wouldn't ignore.
>>>
>>> That's a fun fact to have.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 11/7/2017 4:39:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question
>>>
>>> >Monitor the line for the data burst.  It is the exact same modulation
>>> >method as the emergency alert system you hear squawking on the TV
>>> >before the beep and thunderstorm warning.
>>> >
>>> >I think it comes before the first ring or right after the first ring.
>>> >Some of the original display units rectified and stored ring voltage
>>> >for power so it may need the ring first to power the display box then
>>> >the data.
>>> >
>>> >In any event, you can hear it if you have a butt sett with line monitor
>>> >mode.
>>> >Bell 202 is correct.
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:58 PM
>>> >To: Animal Farm
>>> >Subject: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question
>>> >
>>> >At a customer, I just hooked up a Cisco SPA122 into an Ancient Lucent
>>> >PBX system.  The customer says that caller ID is not coming through,
>>> >but
>>> >it used to work with his old AT&T Lines, and it appears to be hitting
>>> >the ATA Properly.   Is there a setting on the ATA that needs to be set
>>> >that older systems may be looking for?
>>> >
>>> >The only settings I see for Caller ID in the ATA are Caller ID Method,
>>> >currently set to 'Bellcore(N.Amer,China)' and Caller ID FSK Standard,
>>> >set to 'Bell 202'  I've never had to mess with those settings before.
>>> >
>>> >Nate
>>>
>>>


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