What, you mean you don't want to build carrier-grade five nines
infrastructure out of USB dongles held in place with a hot-glue gun?


On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been scared of IgniteNet MetroLinq ever since I saw the pictures of
> its insides.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
> To: "af" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 11/28/2017 9:00:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish
>
> Well, yeah, it depends what all he ends up feeding with it. If it needs
> more than what the current AF24 can handle, I wouldn't go to an AF24HD...
> An 80ghz link wouldn't even cost all that much more, and then it'll be able
> to handle enough bandwidth that you'll probably never have to mess with it
> again. There are also other 24ghz radios that would at least give you the
> option of smaller antennas, if nothing else. But I'd more than likely just
> use an ignitenet.
>
> On Nov 28, 2017 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But can't use the whole gig, so he's looking at AF24HD so he can...
>>  which are $6k opposed to $1k and don't have SFPs.
>>
>> Gig upstream - AF24 - multiple 11 GHz channels\polarities.
>>
>> If he gets his wish and fixes the 11 GHz 1 gigabit issue, the AF24 is now
>> the issue.
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:27:49 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish
>>
>> Yeah, but if I'm understanding right, the AF24 link is already there.
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "Chris Wright" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Everything works beautifully at 700’. At this distance it’s more about
>>> cost savings. Don’t waste your time with AF24 when a 60ghz link at 1/3 the
>>> cost and twice the throughput will fit the bill perfectly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:59 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't use IgnetNet if I already had the airFibers there... if it's
>>> only going to be feeding an 11ghz link that's around 700ish meg, the AF24
>>> link will handle that perfectly fine, and I see no reason to mess with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ignitenets should work beautifully on a 700ft link, but if I only needed
>>> 700Mbps, I'd rather have airFibers. If it gets to the point where ~700Mbps
>>> isn't enough, then yes, I'd use IgniteNet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd use IgniteNet over airFiber for 700 feet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:28:11 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish
>>>
>>> We have a phenomenal saf lumina link we get 366 out of. I can 2+0 this
>>> to get to 732. using the existing 3 and 4 foot antennas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldnt mind seeing a little more of our gigabit upstream connectivity
>>> utilized here, somewhere along the same price using the same antennas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im not at all impressed with the mimosa gear, its not full duplex and
>>> putting that much variable latency into the network bringing our bandwidth
>>> into the core of our network just seems like moving backward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> before I give my blessing, for what its worth, to the boss to order the
>>> SAF gear, I just want to make sure there isnt a better option. Lumina is
>>> older and nearing EOL im guessing, we have other places the units can be
>>> used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> on the same note, we bring this bandwidth up from the fiber by AF24 700
>>> feet, so probably should ask about a 24ghz (or anything) short link
>>> solution. Im assuming af24hd will meet that need
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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