It is easy to play with words and confuse with what one sees vs reality. 

My question to you is .. Have you seen a cow being killed and steak being cut ? 
Have you seen sausage being made ? 

Mfg is not a 'one time' process, and yes creative techniques are used in first 
run production of small batches. 
(That should answer your HotGlue concern.... no hot glue is there in the units 
I have opened up after the initial ones) 

Now in regards to USB.. to each your own.. 
I see it no different than any other way of connecting stuff together.. as long 
as it works and works well so what ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:35:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish

> What, you mean you don't want to build carrier-grade five nines infrastructure
> out of USB dongles held in place with a hot-glue gun?

> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > wrote:

>> I've been scared of IgniteNet MetroLinq ever since I saw the pictures of its
>> insides.

>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Mathew Howard" < [email protected] >
>> To: "af" < [email protected] >
>> Sent: 11/28/2017 9:00:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish

>>> Well, yeah, it depends what all he ends up feeding with it. If it needs more
>>> than what the current AF24 can handle, I wouldn't go to an AF24HD... An 
>>> 80ghz
>>> link wouldn't even cost all that much more, and then it'll be able to handle
>>> enough bandwidth that you'll probably never have to mess with it again. 
>>> There
>>> are also other 24ghz radios that would at least give you the option of 
>>> smaller
>>> antennas, if nothing else. But I'd more than likely just use an ignitenet.

>>> On Nov 28, 2017 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>> But can't use the whole gig, so he's looking at AF24HD so he can... which 
>>>> are
>>>> $6k opposed to $1k and don't have SFPs.

>>>> Gig upstream - AF24 - multiple 11 GHz channels\polarities.

>>>> If he gets his wish and fixes the 11 GHz 1 gigabit issue, the AF24 is now 
>>>> the
>>>> issue.

>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>> The Brothers WISP

>>>> From: "Mathew Howard" < [email protected] >
>>>> To: "af" < [email protected] >
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:27:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish

>>>> Yeah, but if I'm understanding right, the AF24 link is already there.

>>>> On Nov 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "Chris Wright" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>> Everything works beautifully at 700’. At this distance it’s more about 
>>>>> cost
>>>>> savings. Don’t waste your time with AF24 when a 60ghz link at 1/3 the 
>>>>> cost and
>>>>> twice the throughput will fit the bill perfectly.

>>>>> Chris Wright

>>>>> Network Administrator

>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:59 PM
>>>>> To: af
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish

>>>>> I wouldn't use IgnetNet if I already had the airFibers there... if it's 
>>>>> only
>>>>> going to be feeding an 11ghz link that's around 700ish meg, the AF24 link 
>>>>> will
>>>>> handle that perfectly fine, and I see no reason to mess with it.

>>>>> Ignitenets should work beautifully on a 700ft link, but if I only needed
>>>>> 700Mbps, I'd rather have airFibers. If it gets to the point where ~700Mbps
>>>>> isn't enough, then yes, I'd use IgniteNet.

>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>> I'd use IgniteNet over airFiber for 700 feet.

>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>>> The Brothers WISP

>>>>> From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] >
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:28:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish

>>>>> We have a phenomenal saf lumina link we get 366 out of. I can 2+0 this to 
>>>>> get to
>>>>> 732. using the existing 3 and 4 foot antennas

>>>>> I wouldnt mind seeing a little more of our gigabit upstream connectivity
>>>>> utilized here, somewhere along the same price using the same antennas

>>>>> Im not at all impressed with the mimosa gear, its not full duplex and 
>>>>> putting
>>>>> that much variable latency into the network bringing our bandwidth into 
>>>>> the
>>>>> core of our network just seems like moving backward.

>>>>> before I give my blessing, for what its worth, to the boss to order the 
>>>>> SAF
>>>>> gear, I just want to make sure there isnt a better option. Lumina is 
>>>>> older and
>>>>> nearing EOL im guessing, we have other places the units can be used.

>>>>> on the same note, we bring this bandwidth up from the fiber by AF24 700 
>>>>> feet, so
>>>>> probably should ask about a 24ghz (or anything) short link solution. Im
>>>>> assuming af24hd will meet that need

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