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On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> For power we've been running a pair of 16ga conductors up.  You can get
> 16/2 + shield with a heavy outdoor jacket from multiple vendors.  Superior
> Essex sells stuff that's intended for towers.  You can also find outdoor
> speaker wire which is cheaper and has similar specs.  If you're running new
> cables anyway, what's one more?
>
> I've been using pre-terminated fiber up the tower.  Mostly because I don't
> want the tower guy to have to splice.  The tower guys don't usually have
> that in their skill set anyway, and if the cable or connector broke I'm
> just as happy to have them pull up a new pre-terminated cable as to try and
> splice up in the sky.  With the pre-terminated cable I had to special
> request a very short breakout.....these days I might do the breakout myself.
>
> So far, the radio products we've used didn't have enough length in the
> cable gland to accommodate the length of the LC connectors or the
> breakout.  So the solution has been to remove the cable gland and thread in
> a short (6" or so) length of conduit with a male threaded adapter on one
> end and a female threaded adapter on the other end.  Male adapter goes into
> radio where the cable gland was, original cable gland goes into the female
> adapter.  Then you have enough space for fiber connectors and a short
> breakout.  The only catch was some radios (Telrad for one) had metric
> threads on the cable gland, so we had to get a metric to NPT adapter in
> order to use locally available conduit parts.  For cable lengths we were
> getting 100' and 200' and we have spares of each.  We end up with lots of
> slack, but I don't see that as a bad thing.
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 12/15/2017 12:26:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber/power on POPs
>
> Well, you need to convey 105/48=2.187 amps.
>
> 24 gauge is 2.5 ohms per 100 feet.  If you used 4 wires for one polarity
> and 4 wires for the other polarity, you would have .625 ohms per polarity
> or 1.25 ohms per loop/100 ft.
>
> So 1.25 * 1.2 = 1.5 ohms for the 120 foot loop.
>
> 1.5 * 2.187 = 3.28 volt drop.  And since you will really be running it of
> of 54 volts if a battery is involved, you have even less current and more
> voltage overhead.  If the equipment will run at 44 volts you are golden.  I
> think you are golden.
>
> Yes, it is pretty sure to work.  If not, use all the conductors on one
> cable for one polarity and all the conductors of the other cable for the
> other polarity.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 9:52 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] fiber/power on POPs
>
> We are putting our first fiber to the radio, I have no clue the
> components. It appears this link will have 4 LC connectors on single fiber.
>
> Theres a conduit kit for the radio, looks like 2 to each radio in 2+0 if
> im understanding correctly. I figure we will need an enclosure at the top
> for these to enter to let the fiber pairs split out.
>
> The two big questions are
>
> Can I get this cable in pre terminated patch cords affordably and just cut
> the jacket back to get the pairs to the radios.
>
> If its preterminated without running big pipe, conduit is kind of out so
> is just something copper clad similar to BBDGE recommended?
>
> Neither of these are more than 120 feet
>
> Our guy can splice at 70 bucks per, but im not sure how viable that is in
> the air (these are grain elevators though)
>
> Both these radios have existing cat5 BBDGE, can I use that to run about
> 105 watts @ 48volts split out to two radios at 120 feet?
>
> Im pretty excited to not have ethernet negotiation issues or surges
>
>

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