So you're paying them monthly and being charged to migrate?  Seems harsh.

You're paying someone to migrate and fixing it yourself?  What are you
paying for?


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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Doesn't Plat store things in plaintext? Why can't that be carried over?
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> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:47:23 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
> It gets worse.
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>
>
> I wasn’t aware that ALL of my customers are now going to have to re-create
> their account login credentials because they don’t carry over from Plat.
>
> I guess this is universal with SONAR, if you want a billing portal for
> your customers, they will ALL have to be sent some notification or link
> asking them to re-create that info or make new credentials based off their
> account email address.
>
>
>
> What a cluster F
>
>
>
> I’m going to cry
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:38 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
>
> Well, I manually fixed all my account types.
>
>
>
> Now, a week later, the billing portal hosted part is showing up, BUT
> nothing works, no login and their guy Jacob is MIA again.
>
>
>
> I’ve had accounts and cash flow FROZEN for a week for this.
>
>
>
> It’s crazy, I’m about to lose my mind with SONAR.
>
>
>
> Damnit!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:30 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
>
> My wife had a temp job once re-entering accounts for an insurance company
> which was migrating systems.
>
> As long as the human meat computer operating the keyboard is smart enough
> to solve more problems than they create then it sounds good in theory.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> Sent: 1/10/2018 6:05:02 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
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> 
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>
> we have done something like 3...maybe 4 purchases of networks upwards to
> 350 customers / devices.  Each time I've had our people manually enter
> data.  Too risk adverse of import problems or things not working right.
> I've had them do the data entry and I've come behind them to check
> everything.  I'm not sure at this point I'd do it any other way.   I
> remember Evan doing something similar - he had 3-4-5 data entry people
> entering people at one time during a conversion.
>
>
>
> It is never pretty but in the end when you're done it is a pretty good
> feeling.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:44 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
>
> Sorry, I wasn't trying to say you were doing it wrong or anything.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 1/10/2018 3:40:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
> >Sure, in my spare time I'll just create some DB scripts and then go
> >through every account to make sure it worked out and reload.
> >
> >Oh wait, how is that saving me time and money?
> >
> >It isn't.
> >
> >I elected to take their import, do some brief overview to make sure
> >things were generally ok.
> >Then modify/update the ones that have problems.
> >
> >Though that takes time, it's still less effort than starting from
> >scratch.
> >
> >What I was told was it would be easy to migrate in a day or two and get
> >running.
> >
> >So not the case.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:36 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
> >
> >If I recall correctly, the Sonar documentation suggested using the API
> >to write a script to set everything up.  I think the idea is you can
> >test your import script, then just blow away the Sonar instance and try
> >again if you have problems.  Repeat until your script does everything
> >you want.  Then when flag day comes you have a well tested process.
> >
> >I know I heard that somewhere....if it wasn't in the docs it might have
> >been in one of the videos.
> >
> >-Adam
> >
> >
> >------ Original Message ------
> >From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >Sent: 1/10/2018 2:51:58 PM
> >Subject: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
> >
> >>So here is a current update on my months long progress moving from
> >>Platypus to Sonar.
> >>
> >>It's not automatic by any means.
> >>
> >>Data import is taking a long time and its painful and costs a lot
> >>extra.
> >>
> >>I'm having to manually correct/add accounts to Sonar with rate group
> >>changes, address validations etc.
> >>
> >>They appear to be understaffed.
> >>
> >>A lot of their system isn't theirs too, which is OK I guess, just
> >>didn't realize that.
> >>
> >>Import is a third party process if you don't want to do it yourself.
> >>Actual payment site isn't them, you host it yourself or get a hosting
> >>company, and have to maintain it yourself.
> >>Paper statements are not directly them, you have to set up a third
> >>party account and pay/manage them.
> >>
> >>This is just a 'simple' import of billing function only.
> >>
> >>I didn't even have any network information for any accounts, so I
> >>shudder to think how that would have migrated.
> >>
> >>Also I didn't really see them emphasizing the fact that their database
> >>and Plat could get seriously out of synch if you are not careful.
> >>
> >>I've had to manually suspend everything in Platypus to assure data
> >>isn't out of sync with the new system until it comes online.
> >>
> >>That means it's been days of people calling/contacting me trying to
> >>pay
> >>bills and I'm stuck in the middle.
> >>
> >>Don't want to roll back since I've spent so many hours now on
> >>migration.
> >>
> >>Can't go forward yet because I'm still waiting on massive fixes to
> >>rates on customers, and web site creation/setup for billing.
> >>
> >>Let's just say I'm excited to get onboarding done and running, but I'm
> >>also crying because it's not there yet and help is slow to come some
> >>days.
> >>
> >>
> >
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