They additional go down from a 2000MHz Channel to a 500MHz Channel to 
concentrate power.

 

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Eric Kuhnke
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2018 18:48
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

 

This is not extremely new in 80 GHz, just with different and denser 
modulations. The Siklu 80 GHz stuff has done adaptive coding and modulation for 
a while. The (now 7 year old!) Bridgewave adaptrate 80 GHz stuff would maintain 
a 100 Mbps link during a rain fade, by switching a nominally QPSK-modulated 
1500 MHz wide channel for 1 Gbps, temporarily down to BPSK during a rain fade 
event. 

 

 

 

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Stefan Englhardt <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Some vendors do some new things to stretch the range of 80GHz:

 

http://de.nec.com/de_DE/global/prod/nw/pasolink/products/ipasolinkEX_advanced.html?

 

They modulate down and then reduce channel size.

 

This gear is in the 20kEuro Range …

 

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Im Auftrag 
von Faisal Imtiaz
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2018 17:08
An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

 

We have two things to contend with... 

one is Oxygen Absorption

second is Rain Fade

 

Science says, 24ghz has much less O2 absorption fade vs 80ghz

Science also says that 24ghz has slightly less Rain fade vs 80ghz

 

Science also says that if on a particular link, if one is comparing 24ghz vs 
80ghz, the difference in which link drops first will be based on the TX power / 
Antenna Gain and Rx sensitivity.

 

If all things were exactly the same, then 80ghz would drop before 24ghz in Rain 
event.

But in reality, all things are not the same.. I believe 80ghz one is allowed 
more power, and higher antenna gain.

 

 

https://www.e-band.com/index.php?id=86

 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dont-fall-siklu-overbuilds-distance-claims-david-theodore

 

 

at 3.5miles, one is pushing the limits of both 24gzh as well as 80ghz.. 
Depending on what you are trying to achieve, and the rainzone, you can make 
your choice based on what will perform better normally... cause both of them 
will go out in rain :)

 

Best of Luck

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:(305)%20663-5518> 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:(305)%20663-5518>  Option 2 or Email: 
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From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: "af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:42:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

I'd guess 24ghz would be slightly better, but either one is going to drop at 
that distance if you ever get heavy rain.

 

Somebody from Siklu told me at one time, that some of their customers have told 
then that their rainfade is slightly better than an AF24, but slightly worse 
than an AF24HD... how accurate that is, I don't know. 

 

On Jan 19, 2018 6:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I haven’t run the numbers so please save me some time.  Which one has less fade 
margin at 3.5 miles?  I was going to use Siklu with a 2’ antenna.

 

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