I believe that is taken into account with 'rain fade' which is a very loose 
board variance.. thus the arguments / conversations which tend to be more 
anecdotal than anything else. 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:33:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

> How about droplet size and shape vs wavelength and polarization?
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:07 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24
> We have two things to contend with...
> one is Oxygen Absorption
> second is Rain Fade
> Science says, 24ghz has much less O2 absorption fade vs 80ghz
> Science also says that 24ghz has slightly less Rain fade vs 80ghz
> Science also says that if on a particular link, if one is comparing 24ghz vs
> 80ghz, the difference in which link drops first will be based on the TX power 
> /
> Antenna Gain and Rx sensitivity.
> If all things were exactly the same, then 80ghz would drop before 24ghz in 
> Rain
> event.
> But in reality, all things are not the same.. I believe 80ghz one is allowed
> more power, and higher antenna gain.
> https://www.e-band.com/index.php?id=86
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dont-fall-siklu-overbuilds-distance-claims-david-theodore
> at 3.5miles, one is pushing the limits of both 24gzh as well as 80ghz..
> Depending on what you are trying to achieve, and the rainzone, you can make
> your choice based on what will perform better normally... cause both of them
> will go out in rain :)
> Best of Luck
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net

> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:42:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

>> I'd guess 24ghz would be slightly better, but either one is going to drop at
>> that distance if you ever get heavy rain.
>> Somebody from Siklu told me at one time, that some of their customers have 
>> told
>> then that their rainfade is slightly better than an AF24, but slightly worse
>> than an AF24HD... how accurate that is, I don't know.
>> On Jan 19, 2018 6:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>> I haven’t run the numbers so please save me some time. Which one has less 
>>> fade
>>> margin at 3.5 miles? I was going to use Siklu with a 2’ antenna.

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