Depends on your needs from $125.00 and up...

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 6, 2018 1:05 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's the cost on those?
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have zero issues with these..
>> http://www.pulspower.com/?id=565
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2018 12:44 PM, "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The SDR (eg SDR-240-48 [1]) is a 240W AC-DC 48V power supply.  It does
>>> not have a battery charger.   This is what I was talking about.
>>>
>>> The unit to avoid is the SD series of Meanwell's DC-DC converters (use
>>> RSD instead).
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/?qs=pg%252b85jAIcxt
>>> NOjEKDbfLJA%3D%3D
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After receiving my DRP Meanwell, I can say that this was reversed.
>>>>  The SDR is suitable as a battery charger the DRP is a fixed 24V output
>>>> power supply.   I can team it with the DR-UPS40 to make it the same as the
>>>> SDR.    Now I remember some people mentioned that there was a unit to stay
>>>> away from because of reset problems?  Can anyone resend what that was?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>         Robert
>>>>
>>>> On 01/29/2018 10:13 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SDR is a power supply.
>>>>>
>>>>> DRP is a UPS/battery charger.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert Andrews <
>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt
>>>>>
>>>>>         SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that
>>>>>
>>>>>         This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating
>>>>>         ubnt sectors too)
>>>>>         4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48
>>>>>         4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24
>>>>>         Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort
>>>>>         1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or
>>>>>         Mimosa)
>>>>>         RB1100AHX2 (AC power)
>>>>>         HP 1810 24g switch (AC power)
>>>>>
>>>>>         APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites
>>>>>
>>>>>         4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v
>>>>>         4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v
>>>>>         4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v
>>>>>         2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS
>>>>>         2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon)
>>>>>         3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS
>>>>>         1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS
>>>>>         1x PTP 650/Cambium PS
>>>>>         1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS
>>>>>         1x RB1100AHX2/AC power
>>>>>         1x HP 1810g 24/AC power
>>>>>
>>>>>         APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the
>>>>>         battery budget
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded
>>>>>         power supplies too.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified
>>>>> 450m
>>>>>         but may soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which
>>>>>         will add substantial demand
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron
>>>>>         <david.coud...@advantenon.com
>>>>>         <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com
>>>>>         <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>              Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what
>>>>>         Steve is
>>>>>              asking for:____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source:  $84____
>>>>>
>>>>>              Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS:  $37____
>>>>>
>>>>>              Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2:  $131____
>>>>>
>>>>>              24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime
>>>>>         looking for____
>>>>>
>>>>>              Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch:   $250-350  (This is
>>>>> really
>>>>>         the only
>>>>>              expensive component)____
>>>>>
>>>>>              Heater:   $65____
>>>>>
>>>>>              Fan:  $14____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries,
>>>>> we
>>>>>         figure
>>>>>              we have several hours to get a generator to the site if
>>>>>         power isn’t
>>>>>              coming back.   We run all POE from the Netonix, it works
>>>>> really
>>>>>              well.   Here are the other things we can do with the
>>>>> box:____
>>>>>
>>>>>               1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____
>>>>>               2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP
>>>>> DIN____
>>>>>               3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____
>>>>>               4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____
>>>>>               5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____
>>>>>               6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____
>>>>>               7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____
>>>>>               8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____
>>>>>               9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____
>>>>>              10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the
>>>>> Netonix____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet.   Usually a
>>>>>         Hex POE
>>>>>              (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15
>>>>>         more right
>>>>>              now.   While it might be a little more than what you were
>>>>>         thinking,
>>>>>              it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment
>>>>>         per site.
>>>>>              ____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              Best part is, no coding necessary.  Doing all this with
>>>>> the
>>>>>         Monitor
>>>>>              Web2 settings and/or SNMP.    Let me know if you are
>>>>>         interested in
>>>>>              pictures.   For this second batch we have started using
>>>>>         Terminal
>>>>>              blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little
>>>>>         better,
>>>>>              but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a
>>>>>         little
>>>>>              tight.____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              Regards,____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              David Coudron____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>
>>>>>              <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>>>>>              *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM
>>>>>              *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>>>>              *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix.
>>>>> If
>>>>>         I had to
>>>>>              do it now I'd go with the IDC switch.  When we did our
>>>>>         design, the
>>>>>              idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our
>>>>> A         and B
>>>>>              sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the
>>>>> netonix
>>>>>              switches run on.____
>>>>>
>>>>>              __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>              I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all
>>>>>         buy them
>>>>>              all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire
>>>>>         btw.____
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>              On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird
>>>>>         <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>
>>>>>              <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>>         wrote:____
>>>>>
>>>>>                  A 12 port version would be nice.  Looks like the 26
>>>>>         port version
>>>>>                  is $600.____
>>>>>
>>>>>                  __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                  On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>                  <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:____
>>>>>
>>>>>                      Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed
>>>>>         (isolated dc)…____
>>>>>
>>>>>                      __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                      *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>
>>>>>                      <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Josh Baird
>>>>>                      <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>                      *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>"
>>>>>                      <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>>
>>>>>                      *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM
>>>>>                      *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>                      <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>>
>>>>>                      *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>>>>
>>>>>                      __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                      Which Netonix are you running at - 48V?  Or are
>>>>> you
>>>>>         using an
>>>>>                      isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V
>>>>>         rectifier and
>>>>>                      Netonix?____
>>>>>
>>>>>                      __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                      On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A.
>>>>> Villarini
>>>>>                      <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:____
>>>>>
>>>>>                          Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf
>>>>>         off Ebay
>>>>>                            ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done.
>>>>>         You can
>>>>>                          power 90% of WISP gear ____
>>>>>
>>>>>                          __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                          *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>
>>>>>                          <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Steve Jones
>>>>>                          <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>>>>         <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>                          <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>>>>         <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>                          *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:
>>>>> af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>"
>>>>>                          <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>>
>>>>>                          *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
>>>>>                          *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com
>>>>>         <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>                          <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>>
>>>>>                          *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
>>>>>
>>>>>                          __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                          Any of you folks who know both dc plant and
>>>>>         even more
>>>>>                          know small wisp budget interested in looking
>>>>> at
>>>>>         our gear
>>>>>                          and power setup and giving realistic advice
>>>>>         that doesnt
>>>>>                          have a 10 different 500 dollar components
>>>>>         combined with
>>>>>                          a full time linux guy and a full time coder?
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>>                          __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                          Id love you to do it out of the kindness of
>>>>>         your heart,
>>>>>                          but i do have some advisory busget.____
>>>>>
>>>>>                          __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                          Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super
>>>>> ghetto
>>>>>                          runtimes on batteries coupled with having to
>>>>>         accept we
>>>>>                          are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs
>>>>>         die.....
>>>>>                          please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to
>>>>>         go to the
>>>>>                          facebook groups, and thats like going to a
>>>>>         mikrotik or
>>>>>                          ubnt forum.____
>>>>>
>>>>>                      __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>                  __ __
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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