Depends on your needs from $125.00 and up... Jaime Solorza
On Feb 6, 2018 1:05 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > What's the cost on those? > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We have zero issues with these.. >> http://www.pulspower.com/?id=565 >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Feb 6, 2018 12:44 PM, "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The SDR (eg SDR-240-48 [1]) is a 240W AC-DC 48V power supply. It does >>> not have a battery charger. This is what I was talking about. >>> >>> The unit to avoid is the SD series of Meanwell's DC-DC converters (use >>> RSD instead). >>> >>> [1] https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/?qs=pg%252b85jAIcxt >>> NOjEKDbfLJA%3D%3D >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> After receiving my DRP Meanwell, I can say that this was reversed. >>>> The SDR is suitable as a battery charger the DRP is a fixed 24V output >>>> power supply. I can team it with the DR-UPS40 to make it the same as the >>>> SDR. Now I remember some people mentioned that there was a unit to stay >>>> away from because of reset problems? Can anyone resend what that was? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> On 01/29/2018 10:13 AM, Josh Baird wrote: >>>> >>>>> SDR is a power supply. >>>>> >>>>> DRP is a UPS/battery charger. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert Andrews < >>>>> i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt >>>>> >>>>> SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that >>>>> >>>>> This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating >>>>> ubnt sectors too) >>>>> 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48 >>>>> 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24 >>>>> Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort >>>>> 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or >>>>> Mimosa) >>>>> RB1100AHX2 (AC power) >>>>> HP 1810 24g switch (AC power) >>>>> >>>>> APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites >>>>> >>>>> 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v >>>>> 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v >>>>> 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v >>>>> 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS >>>>> 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon) >>>>> 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS >>>>> 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS >>>>> 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS >>>>> 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS >>>>> 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power >>>>> 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power >>>>> >>>>> APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the >>>>> battery budget >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded >>>>> power supplies too. >>>>> >>>>> I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power >>>>> supplies. >>>>> >>>>> Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified >>>>> 450m >>>>> but may soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which >>>>> will add substantial demand >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron >>>>> <david.coud...@advantenon.com >>>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> >>>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com >>>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what >>>>> Steve is >>>>> asking for:____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84____ >>>>> >>>>> Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37____ >>>>> >>>>> Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131____ >>>>> >>>>> 24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime >>>>> looking for____ >>>>> >>>>> Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is >>>>> really >>>>> the only >>>>> expensive component)____ >>>>> >>>>> Heater: $65____ >>>>> >>>>> Fan: $14____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, >>>>> we >>>>> figure >>>>> we have several hours to get a generator to the site if >>>>> power isn’t >>>>> coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works >>>>> really >>>>> well. Here are the other things we can do with the >>>>> box:____ >>>>> >>>>> 1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____ >>>>> 2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP >>>>> DIN____ >>>>> 3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____ >>>>> 4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____ >>>>> 5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____ >>>>> 6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____ >>>>> 7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____ >>>>> 8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____ >>>>> 9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____ >>>>> 10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the >>>>> Netonix____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a >>>>> Hex POE >>>>> (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 >>>>> more right >>>>> now. While it might be a little more than what you were >>>>> thinking, >>>>> it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment >>>>> per site. >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with >>>>> the >>>>> Monitor >>>>> Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are >>>>> interested in >>>>> pictures. For this second batch we have started using >>>>> Terminal >>>>> blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little >>>>> better, >>>>> but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a >>>>> little >>>>> tight.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Regards,____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> David Coudron____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. >>>>> If >>>>> I had to >>>>> do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our >>>>> design, the >>>>> idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our >>>>> A and B >>>>> sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the >>>>> netonix >>>>> switches run on.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all >>>>> buy them >>>>> all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire >>>>> btw.____ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird >>>>> <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> >>>>> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com >>>>> >>> >>>>> wrote:____ >>>>> >>>>> A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 >>>>> port version >>>>> is $600.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini >>>>> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> >>>>> wrote:____ >>>>> >>>>> Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed >>>>> (isolated dc)…____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Josh Baird >>>>> <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> >>>>> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>> >>>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" >>>>> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>>> *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM >>>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are >>>>> you >>>>> using an >>>>> isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V >>>>> rectifier and >>>>> Netonix?____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. >>>>> Villarini >>>>> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> >>>>> wrote:____ >>>>> >>>>> Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf >>>>> off Ebay >>>>> ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. >>>>> You can >>>>> power 90% of WISP gear ____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Steve Jones >>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> >>>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto: >>>>> af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" >>>>> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>>> *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM >>>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Any of you folks who know both dc plant and >>>>> even more >>>>> know small wisp budget interested in looking >>>>> at >>>>> our gear >>>>> and power setup and giving realistic advice >>>>> that doesnt >>>>> have a 10 different 500 dollar components >>>>> combined with >>>>> a full time linux guy and a full time coder? >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Id love you to do it out of the kindness of >>>>> your heart, >>>>> but i do have some advisory busget.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super >>>>> ghetto >>>>> runtimes on batteries coupled with having to >>>>> accept we >>>>> are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs >>>>> die..... >>>>> please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to >>>>> go to the >>>>> facebook groups, and thats like going to a >>>>> mikrotik or >>>>> ubnt forum.____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >