I wonder if that UPS can handle recharging that much battery... to put
things in perspective, we're talking about roughly ten car battery-sized
batteries to get that much capacity.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> What he said.
>
> 270 x 48 = 12960
>
> 12960 watt hours x 10 cents per watt hour = $1296.00
> And that is cheap for batts.
>
> Figure on spending twice that or more for really good batts.
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:48 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Af Digest, Vol 42, Issue 455
>
> Steady/constant load would mean that it's drawing roughly 270 watts all
> day long, or is 270 watts the maximum load and it's running lower for part
> of the day. If you have a constant (or average) load of 270 watts, you're
> going to need about 13000 watt hours of battery for 48 hours of run
> time.... that's going to be a pretty big pile of batteries.
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Darrick Potter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, 5500 is incorrect. Sorry just getting my feet wet with this stuff.
>> The load is roughly 270 watts. Chuck, can clarify what you mean by
>> steady/constant?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Darrick Potter
>> DMCI Broadband LLC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> > Date: 02/21/18 11:52 am
>> > Subject: Af Digest, Vol 42, Issue 455
>> >
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>> >    1. Re: Batteries for backup power. (Chuck McCown)
>> >    2. Re: Batteries for backup power. (Adam Moffett)
>> >    3. Re: Pledge drive (Craig Schmaderer)
>> >
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>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:59:43 -0700
>> > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
>> > Message-ID: <D50413E10C864680AE62C243BBFA77BD@ChuckMcCownPC>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> > Not sure exactly what you mean.
>> > Is your load 5500 watts or do you need 5500 watt hours?
>> >
>> > Let?s start with the load.  Is the load steady/constant?
>> > If so, what is the wattage?
>> > If not, what is the peak wattage?
>> >
>> > From: Darrick Potter
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:56 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Looking for advice on batteries for standby power? We are using a
>> Tripp-Lite APS2424 to charge batteries and invert to AC power. Our current
>> power needs are about 5500 watts per 20 hours. We would like at least two
>> days of run time. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Darrick Potter
>> > DMCI Broadband LLC
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>> > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:59:48 +0000
>> > From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
>> > Message-ID: <em594b66aa-4ba7-4274-9b78-9251236c06b9@cciadam>
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>> > I think there's a typo here somewhere.
>> >
>> > If you need to run 5500 watts for 2 days then you need 264,000
>> > watt-hours of battery.
>> > If that's right, then better look at generator and a big fuel tank
>> > instead, and get only enough battery for an hour or so.
>> >
>> >
>> > ------ Original Message ------
>> > From: "Darrick Potter" <[email protected]>
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Sent: 2/21/2018 10:56:32 AM
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Looking for advice on batteries for standby power? We are using a
>> > >Tripp-Lite APS2424 to charge batteries and invert to AC power. Our
>> > >current power needs are about 5500 watts per 20 hours. We would like at
>> > >least two days of run time. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>> > >
>> > >Darrick Potter
>> > >DMCI Broadband LLC
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:13:56 +0000
>> > From: Craig Schmaderer <[email protected]>
>> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>> > Message-ID:
>> >      <[email protected]
>> 17.prod.outlook.com>
>> >
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Did Paul ever let us know what the current cost and deficit is?
>> >
>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:51 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>> >
>> > We used to allow all AnimalFarm sponsors to do exactly this.  Every
>> Friday morning.  Perhaps a time to revisit the issue...  Good way to build
>> a kitty for Paul.
>> >
>> > From: TJ Trout
>> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:51 PM
>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>> >
>> > Chuck could consider allowing vendors to post ad's on a specific day
>> and time for a specific fee, but that's a whole other animal to deal with,
>> the plus would be he could add like *SPONSORED AD* to the title which we
>> can all filter straight to spam if desired ?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>> > Its is Overkill, providing your time has no value to chase down why X
>> Mail server can?t be delivered to, or why X mail server has undefined
>> bounces or x firewall system thinks it?s spam, etc. etc.
>> >
>> > Amazon never goes down, never gets blacklisted.
>> >
>> > If you are cool with bulk mailserver drama, then have a go at
>> switching, and managing that aspect.   ?
>> >
>> > AES is not the cheapest option no doubt.  This was a choice Chuck and I
>> made to make sure it ?just worked? because we all have businesses that,
>> hopefully, are successful enough to not want to fuss with it.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:13 PM
>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>> >
>> > What is SES?  Amazon?
>> >
>> > That seems overkill for a mailing list.
>> >
>> > On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett <[email protected]<mailto:afmug
>> @ics-il.net>> wrote:
>> > SES
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Mike Hammett
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>> > Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> > [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebo
>> ok.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[
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>> >
>> >
>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>>
>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>> > Support of what???
>> >
>> > What the heck costs that much?
>> >
>> > Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after that.
>> >
>> > On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray <[email protected]<mailto:ryan
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including
>> support, $1800 not including support.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>> [email protected]<mailto:mattlists@riverval
>> leyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> > Can it really be more than $5????
>> >
>> > How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when
>> virtualized?
>> >
>> > On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>> > Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?
>> > On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the
>> > not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.
>> >
>> > Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to
>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> >
>> > Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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