and there's no way they'll sell it that way for the foreseeable future. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:55:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 


Yup. I remember that from when I had to sell Dish Network. No two people agree 
on what the right set of channels are, but they all agree that the channels 
they want should be in the cheaper package. 




------ Original Message ------ 
From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 2/23/2018 8:40:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 





" a set of the channels folks want to watch" That's going to be even harder 
than a full line-up OTT. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:08:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 



It’s why I’ve held off for as long as I have. None of the options were right. 
They either required expensive private lines, or the costs were so high I ended 
up making no profit and I felt like it was too expensive to try to sell to the 
end user. Or the quality of the feed was junk. 


Just give me a set of the channels folks want to watch for $30-$40/month and I 
can sell it. 


I can’t sell a service where I need a $1,500/month private line. Or where the 
monthly rate ends up being $60 when I mark it up. 


Or where the provider takes their entire head end down for a day while they 
move it. 

On Feb 23, 2018, at 19:01, Clint Wiley < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > wrote: 


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That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to 
choose the wrong technology/solution. 



Thanks, 
_________________________ 
Clint Wiley 
Hagerstown Fiber Internet 



On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


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The statement of the week... 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 



Maybe. Time will tell. 

On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


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I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same 
lineup. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the 
public internet, why not RCTV? 

Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Clint Wiley 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds 
an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. 

Thanks, 
_________________________ 

Clint Wiley 
Hagerstown Fiber Internet 

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, " ch...@wbmfg.com " < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
> 
> That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different 
> tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could drop 
> it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get 
> caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. 
> 
> Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was 
> trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN 
> (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes 
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 
> 
> RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line 
> requirement. 
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, 
>> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale 
>> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on 
>> either provider? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> _________________________ 
>> Clint Wiley 
>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet 






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