If the wave crosses state lines you get USF applied automatically unless you 
can get it waived.

Ask your carrier for a “USF exemption form” and see what they say.  They may 
have to find the one person in the dusty back corner that handles it. I had to 
educate my sales rep on it, he had no idea. 

If you pay >$10,000/year in USF direct via your voip offering you’re no longer 
“de minims” status, and can get it waived on your waves. 

https://www.usac.org/cont/filers/de-minimis.aspx



> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I believe the rule says if more than x percentage of traffic is interstate 
> then USF applies.   If it’s intrastate then it doesn’t apply.   
> 
> As far as I am concerned for my intrastate (in state) circuits the traffic is 
> coming from my router interface and going to my other router interface.  What 
> the ultimate source and destination of those packets are is pretty hard for 
> me to determine.   The header I’m looking at says it goes to the other end.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:26 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am very interested in this question as well.  Looking to understand the 
>> rules of which USF taxes is not in place.  We have some fiber leases coming 
>> up where I want to structure things properly
>>  
>> From: Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
>> Carl Peterson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:45 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] USF on interstate wave
>>  
>> I know this has been covered before...  Got hit with a pretty substantial 
>> USF surcharge on a wave by Centurylink even after getting all taxes and fees 
>> estimated ahead of time by Level3.  USF wasn't in there but now they are 
>> saying pound sand.   
>>  
>> This is a wave between data centers.  Just used for internet.  We don't sell 
>> VOIP.  
>>  
>> Is there a way out of this?  Is USF appropriate on a wave with no phone 
>> service is involved?  Its kind of crazy at 21% 
> 

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