So, I went and brushed up on the non-commerical rules just because I
haven't paid much attention to them recently, and they seem to have changed
a bit, probably partially due to the law which was passed a few months ago
...

I agree 100%.  For non-commerical, everything I read indicates that within
5 miles of any airport/heliport you simply need to call the airport
owner/tower/etc. to notify them of your operation. The under 400ft
requirement seems to have largely been excised from the FCC website, even
though I have a copy of paperwork that I agreed to back when I did my
original drone registration which says that I agree to fly under 400 ft.

But, the class at wisapalooza can be summarized in one line:

"If you're using a drone for commercial purposes you need a license.
 Inspecting a tower for a WISP you own or work for is going to almost
certainly going to be a commercial purpose.   Go get a license, which will
also teach you all of the rules you need to be following, which are
different than the non-commercial rules."


On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Matt Hoppes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hobbyists do not get waivers. Commercial gets waivers.
>
> Hobbyists call the Tower.
> Commercial just flies - with the waiver.
>
> Waivers are going away in favor of the instant authorization system LAANC.
>
> Clearly we need a session on drones at wispapalooza.
>
> > On Apr 30, 2018, at 18:16, Robert Andrews <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > 5 miles around an airport they certainly are.   And completely
> prohibited without a waver..
> >
> >> On 04/30/2018 08:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> Actually hobbyists are not limited to how high they can fly.
> >>> On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:11, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>> From my understanding so far, while the spirit of what you're saying
> is true, it is more complicated than that.
> >>>
> >>> If you're flying as a hobbyist within 5 miles of any airport, helipad,
> etc. (towered or not)  you need a FAA waiver.  In addition, you're limited
> to 400ft, can't fly over certain areas, etc.   One really should read up on
> and follow the rules, as they're not just there to irritate drone users.
> >>>
> >>> If you have a commercial license then where you can fly is based on
> the actual airspace classification instead of the five mile limit.  Much of
> the knowledge needed for the test revolves around understanding how to know
> where it is safe and legal to fly based on charts and observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 8:37 AM Robert <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    Also be aware that if you are within five miles of a towered
> >>>    airport you
> >>>    need FAA wavers for flight in that area.   I talked to a
> >>>    controller the
> >>>    other day and he was not kidding in any way, dead serious about
> >>>    prosecuting violators to the same level as they go after laser
> >>>    flashers.
> >>>       Seems the FAA is on edge about the first aircraft to be brought
> >>>    down
> >>>    by a drone.   I thought it was a small probability but the FAA
> >>>    seems to
> >>>    think otherwise..
> >>>
> >>>    On 4/30/18 7:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> >>>    > For those of you considering using a Drone for commercial
> >>>    purposes, be
> >>>    > aware you probably need a commercial drone license.  Like many
> >>>    other
> >>>    > things, you probably will never get caught if the flight is for
> >>>    internal
> >>>    > use, but the requirement still exists.
> >>>    >
> >>>    > I'm currently slowly working on getting mine for various
> >>>    reasons.  Have
> >>>    > been enjoying learning a bit more about our aeronautics system
> >>>    in the
> >>>    > USA.  So far it doesn't seem like it's that difficult.
> >>>    >
> >>>    > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 7:13 AM Dave <[email protected]
> >>>    <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>    > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>>    >
> >>>    >     We are in the market for one now.
> >>>    >
> >>>    >     I was looking at the welds and mounting of that ring to hold
> all
> >>>    >     that gear. I like overkill for structural integrity. I would
> >>>    have more
> >>>    >     larger feet bolted to the tank on all angles.
> >>>    >     Just thinking about my poor tower guys cursing me after they
> >>>    >     discover what they are hooked on to.
> >>>    >
> >>>    >
> >>>    >
> >>>    >     On 04/30/2018 12:14 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>    >>     my contractor shot some drone pics on a site. other than
> >>>    the uber
> >>>    >>     sloppy cable this doesnt look as terrible as it is. will
> >>>    rebuild
> >>>    >>     it, but the drone footage and pics is crazy useful, the
> >>>    external
> >>>    >>     perspective really helps getting an overall. i highly
> recommend
> >>>    >>     getting drone shots
> >>>    >
> >>>    >     --
> >>>    >
> >>>
>



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