i vote MT radioactive tubes

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass.  Not so much with
> the ceramics.
> The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage.  The ones I use fire at
> about 90 volts.
>
> I remember working at sites where the gas tubes were filled with
> radioactive gases.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:23 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube.
>
> Aren't some of them light sensitive?  What if the APC chassis was near a
> window and getting direct sunlight?
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
>
> Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.
>
> Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.
>
> The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized,
> which means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from a
> ground loop or ???
>
> Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test and
> inspection procedure should have caught that.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> FYI,
>
> I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa
> the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then
> shuts down.
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the
>> issue it seems.
>> I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different
>> design that eliminates the steering diodes.
>> Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some
>> situations.
>>
>> *From:* George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not
>> as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable
>> with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've
>> broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential
>> ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> What's this gas tube product placement?
>> I want to see these
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.
>>>
>>> Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
>>> equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to
>>> identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
>>> products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them
>>> on.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
>>> not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
>>> though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
>>> out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
>>> even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
>>> Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
>>> so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Matt,
>>> >
>>> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
>>> version
>>> > to see if that fixes the issue.
>>> >
>>> > Inquiring minds want to know...
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Matt
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>> >
>>> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>> >>
>>> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> >> before.
>>> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>> > equipment safe?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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