Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.  

Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.  

The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, which 
means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from a ground loop 
or ???

Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test and 
inspection procedure should have caught that.  


From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

FYI, 

I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa the 
other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then shuts 
down.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

  I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the issue 
it seems.  
  I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different 
design that eliminates the steering diodes.
  Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some situations.  

  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not as 
much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable with on 
the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've broken the 
shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential ground loop 
issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I don't know.


  On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

    What's this gas tube product placement? 
    I want to see these

    On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

      Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

      Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
      equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
      identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
      products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them 
on.

      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Matt
      Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

      Chuck,

      Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
      not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
      though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
      out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
      even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
      Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
      so far.



      On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
      > Matt,
      >
      > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube 
version
      > to see if that fixes the issue.
      >
      > Inquiring minds want to know...
      >
      > -----Original Message----- From: Matt
      > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
      > To: [email protected]
      > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
      >
      >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
      >>
      >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
      >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
      >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
      >>
      >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
      >> before.
      >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
      >
      >
      > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
      > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
      > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
      > equipment safe? 








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