It can be poe powered and do poe out... I've tested that.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I've been thinking about switching to the map but haven't verified it can
> be poe powered and do poe out. I'd like the tools in the mikrotik right
> there. Romon could keep the mac winbox access, but I don't know if the tik
> phone app does that.
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018, 1:10 PM David Coudron <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>> Very true.   However, we found that if we have to carry the USB dongle
>> anyway, that carrying the mAP instead gave us much more freedom and
>> reliability (the USB dongles seemed a little flaky, if they got pulled
>> sideways in the port, they didn’t work).   We could even sit in the truck
>> and work on the equipment without having to run a cable to cabinet, etc.
>> Or have two techs connected to the cabinet at the same time.   However,
>> there are lots of ways to skin this cat as you mention 😊  Probably the
>> biggest thing is that you can connect to the network using a phone rather
>> than just an ethernet port based device like a laptop.
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>> Regards,
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>> David Coudron
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>> *From:* Af <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dave
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 11:55 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop
>>
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>> USB ethernet fixes that :)
>>
>> On 05/21/2018 09:12 AM, David Coudron wrote:
>>
>> We have been using the Mikrotik mAP in the same fashion as Steve mentions
>> with some pretty good results.   Put IP addresses on the one interface as
>> needed and then connect wirelessly.   We were killing EIthernet ports too
>> often due to the stiffer shielded patch cables and cable runs on our tower
>> sites.   They just put too much pressure on kinds of Ethernet ports many
>> laptops have.  Now, it is getting tougher to find a decently thin laptop
>> with an Ethernet port anyway.
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>> Additionally the techs are doing everything they can from their phones
>> these days.   Normal Mimosa installs are entirely phone based.   Our main
>> tech avoids the laptop like the plague.   We can firmware update the client
>> radios, configure the radio, make the customer active in Powercode, etc all
>> from the phone.   We really only use the laptop and mAP for tower work now,
>> and much of that has moved to the phones too.
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>> Regards,
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>> David Coudron
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>> *From:* Af <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *
>> Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 9:06 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop
>>
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>> I've thought about the air-router approach, but probably 90% of my
>> mikrotik work is with MAC-Winbox, setting up new routers.
>>
>> I just found the Acer Travelmate Spin B1.  $330.  Might pick one of those
>> up and see how it works.
>>
>> On 5/21/2018 8:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I paid 1500 for my Toshiba tecra (not toughbook) like 6 or 7 years ago,
>> it's been through he'll in the field, roofs, grain elevators, rain, drops,
>> left running in the bag and getting hot. It's on its 3rd battery, fourth
>> keyboard, but runs strong and never fails, even has serial port. Price
>> could have been less but I wanted the biggest processor because at the time
>> I was running multiple VMs.
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>> Lenovo are decent, the antiglare  is still visiblish in the sun. The keys
>> fall off and batteries don't last, Ether net is questionable, but God only
>> knows what the techs stuck into it or settings they jacked up.
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>> Other than the need for wireshark occasionally, a cheap air router to
>> connect to the device with a ton of ip aliases has allowed me to do 99
>> percent from my phone now. Onedrive syncs our base config to dump in, we
>> can test, allocate and finalize a customers installation directly from the
>> top of their tower.
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>> On Mon, May 21, 2018, 8:38 AM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The Netbook I've been using for a the last couple years bit the dust on
>> an install last week.  Acer Aspire E11.  It was working fine one minute,
>> then the Ethernet adapter was not detected by windows anymore.  Of
>> course now-a-days nothing comes with a built in Ethernet adapter, I'd
>> really hate having to remember to carry an Ethernet dongle everywhere.
>> Looking for a small form factor ~11" so I can throw it in a canvas bag
>> for a hike out to a tower site.  SSD and several-hour battery life are
>> very nice as well.
>>
>> It doesn't need any mighty CPU or Video, the only thing that it does is
>> program Radios/Mikrotiks, and RDP into another machine.
>>
>> The only new machines I've found so far that fits this bill are the
>> Lenovo Thinkpad line.  It looks like a current gen 11" Thinkpad is
>> ~$700.  More than the $170 I paid for the Acer 5 years ago.  I also
>> don't like that all the connections are on the sides of machines now,
>> instead of the back.  When it's sitting on the truck console with things
>> connected, that makes it a lot wider.  The Thinkpads also specify that
>> they have an 'Anti-glare' Screen.  Would that make it easier or harder
>> to see outside?
>>
>> Is there a brand or Type that I missed?  $700 for a field laptop is a
>> little more than I'd like to spend for something that has to survive
>> field work.  Although the $170 unit has worked just fine in these
>> conditions for several years.
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