Yep, we use the Powerlink for installs as well.   With that, the entire install 
process can be done from the phone, which makes things very portable and quick. 
  We use the mAP for tower tech work.  The only issue we have with the 
Powerlinks is that they can be a little fragile, we really have to protect the 
Ethernet ports or they break.

Regards,

David Coudron

From: Af <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

We love the bigger Powerlink (wouldn't waste time on the smaller one)

Work trucks have Toughbooks.  There are some holes in them and all kinds of 
dropped on concrete scuffs.  They still work.  We'll replace them when they get 
super slow/battery doesn't last a work day.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Jeremy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
+1 we also use Powerlink, and they are amazing.

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Dave 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We started using the Powerlink from link technologies.
So far our guys love em. The POE and wireless are built in.
a full charge will last them the whole day.


On 05/21/2018 01:10 PM, David Coudron wrote:
Very true.   However, we found that if we have to carry the USB dongle anyway, 
that carrying the mAP instead gave us much more freedom and reliability (the 
USB dongles seemed a little flaky, if they got pulled sideways in the port, 
they didn’t work).   We could even sit in the truck and work on the equipment 
without having to run a cable to cabinet, etc.  Or have two techs connected to 
the cabinet at the same time.   However, there are lots of ways to skin this 
cat as you mention 😊  Probably the biggest thing is that you can connect to the 
network using a phone rather than just an ethernet port based device like a 
laptop.

Regards,

David Coudron




From: Af <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

USB ethernet fixes that :)
On 05/21/2018 09:12 AM, David Coudron wrote:
We have been using the Mikrotik mAP in the same fashion as Steve mentions with 
some pretty good results.   Put IP addresses on the one interface as needed and 
then connect wirelessly.   We were killing EIthernet ports too often due to the 
stiffer shielded patch cables and cable runs on our tower sites.   They just 
put too much pressure on kinds of Ethernet ports many laptops have.  Now, it is 
getting tougher to find a decently thin laptop with an Ethernet port anyway.

Additionally the techs are doing everything they can from their phones these 
days.   Normal Mimosa installs are entirely phone based.   Our main tech avoids 
the laptop like the plague.   We can firmware update the client radios, 
configure the radio, make the customer active in Powercode, etc all from the 
phone.   We really only use the laptop and mAP for tower work now, and much of 
that has moved to the phones too.

Regards,

David Coudron


From: Af <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate 
Burke
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

I've thought about the air-router approach, but probably 90% of my mikrotik 
work is with MAC-Winbox, setting up new routers.

I just found the Acer Travelmate Spin B1.  $330.  Might pick one of those up 
and see how it works.
On 5/21/2018 8:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
I paid 1500 for my Toshiba tecra (not toughbook) like 6 or 7 years ago, it's 
been through he'll in the field, roofs, grain elevators, rain, drops, left 
running in the bag and getting hot. It's on its 3rd battery, fourth keyboard, 
but runs strong and never fails, even has serial port. Price could have been 
less but I wanted the biggest processor because at the time I was running 
multiple VMs.

Lenovo are decent, the antiglare  is still visiblish in the sun. The keys fall 
off and batteries don't last, Ether net is questionable, but God only knows 
what the techs stuck into it or settings they jacked up.

Other than the need for wireshark occasionally, a cheap air router to connect 
to the device with a ton of ip aliases has allowed me to do 99 percent from my 
phone now. Onedrive syncs our base config to dump in, we can test, allocate and 
finalize a customers installation directly from the top of their tower.

On Mon, May 21, 2018, 8:38 AM Nate Burke 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The Netbook I've been using for a the last couple years bit the dust on
an install last week.  Acer Aspire E11.  It was working fine one minute,
then the Ethernet adapter was not detected by windows anymore.  Of
course now-a-days nothing comes with a built in Ethernet adapter, I'd
really hate having to remember to carry an Ethernet dongle everywhere.
Looking for a small form factor ~11" so I can throw it in a canvas bag
for a hike out to a tower site.  SSD and several-hour battery life are
very nice as well.

It doesn't need any mighty CPU or Video, the only thing that it does is
program Radios/Mikrotiks, and RDP into another machine.

The only new machines I've found so far that fits this bill are the
Lenovo Thinkpad line.  It looks like a current gen 11" Thinkpad is
~$700.  More than the $170 I paid for the Acer 5 years ago.  I also
don't like that all the connections are on the sides of machines now,
instead of the back.  When it's sitting on the truck console with things
connected, that makes it a lot wider.  The Thinkpads also specify that
they have an 'Anti-glare' Screen.  Would that make it easier or harder
to see outside?

Is there a brand or Type that I missed?  $700 for a field laptop is a
little more than I'd like to spend for something that has to survive
field work.  Although the $170 unit has worked just fine in these
conditions for several years.


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