I quite agree with you Kolawole that more awareness of IPv6 is needed. But thinking from a business perspective, awareness wouldn't really matter if old technology is working and still given a satisfactory results. I probably believe that it is TIME that would determine the rate of IPv6 adoption.
Regards. Peter On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM kolawole Adewale <[email protected]> wrote: > More awareness still needs to be done in the areas of benfits. I feel tech > operators in Africa, especially (medium ones)feel reluctant to migrate to > IPv6 because of their lack of awareness the IPv6 brings. > Kudos to AFRINIC on thier efforts. > On 6 Dec 2018 7:48 pm, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Send AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of AfrIPv6-Discuss digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to > > IPv6 (Noureddine IDBOUFKER) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:47:25 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Noureddine IDBOUFKER <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop > > people moving to IPv6 > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but > unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a risk. > Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a very risky > situation. I talk about Business and also technical risks. Unfortunately, > the majority of operators has an urgency mindset.??I am really convinced > that in order to encourage them to transit to IPv6, African Communities has > to focus on risks and the urgency aspect of the transition. For example > leading studies in order to produce a kind of SWOT Matrix, adapted to the > African context, establishing Strengths, Weaknesses, Threats and > Opportunities. > > Regards----------------------------------------------- > > Noureddine IDBOUFKERhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/idboufkernoureddine/ > > > > > > Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 15:51:06 UTC+1, Lee Howard < > [email protected]> a ?crit : > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote: > > > > > > I think that Top management is not enough aware of business > opportunities behind IPv6 migration.? Sure IPv6 will give them the > opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, > services,....? but it is not limited to that. Top management has to > encourage their people to be express their innovation capabilities in a > such a way to contribute to the developpement of Value Added Services.? > Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will > simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is a > real pillar of IT governance. > > > > I agree with that. I have several presentations on business reasons for > IPv6, which I imagine overlap with AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives training: > > > > - Not running out of addresses, so you can keep adding customers > > - Faster [1] > > > > - Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher; more customers see > your web site > > > > - Because it's faster, users spend more time on the page; more ad > revenue > > > > - IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks if not secured > > - Use addresses to identify services; easier policy routing, ACLs, > security, troubleshooting, etc. > > - New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM > [draft-fear-ippm-mpdm] > > - Simpler container networking [2] > > > > - Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH, it's all just > IP. [3] > > > > > > The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not widely available > yet, but are examples of innovations enabled by IPv6. I didn't even list > "It's not NAT" because you're likely to use some kind of address sharing to > reach legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines as others deploy, and it > may be cheaper than NAT44. > > > > IPv6 is cool. > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > [1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB > > > > > > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o > > > > [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0 > > > > > > > > Regards? > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Noureddine IDBOUFKER > > > > Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > via AfrIPv6-Discuss <[email protected]> a ?crit : > > > > > > Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is > to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each > country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web > sites, etc.). > > > > ? > > > > I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years > ago. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jordi > > > > ? > > > > ? > > > > ? > > > > De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <[email protected]> > > Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <[email protected]> > > Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47 > > Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <[email protected]> > > Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop > people moving to IPv6 > > > > ? > > Dear All, > > > > I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators > in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply > IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally. > > I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I > think that all the members are aware of the situation. > > > > Best regard, Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA > > Webmaster i RENALA > > Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - > http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ > > Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche > Scientifique - Fiadanana > > GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29 ? De: "Mukom > Akong T." <[email protected]> > > ?: "IPv6 in Africa" <[email protected]> > > Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 > > Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop > people moving to IPv6 ? > > > > > > > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying > decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do > it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. > > > > > > > > Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). > But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, > or cheaper) with v6. > > > > > > This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest > of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. > Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications > today. > > > > > > > > > ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they > can't get upgrades. > > > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep > discounts. > > > > > > I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is > going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical > corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. > > > > > > > > Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" > sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. > If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, > lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their > box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a > business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing > lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification. > > > > > > In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and > customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a > government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to > do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government > IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at ? > > > > ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en > > FRENCH ? ?https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr > > > > > > > For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve > actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, > with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration > statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to > grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest > about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that > everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, > we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and > until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter > > > > > > I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open > "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, > or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not > be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about. > > > > > > > > > > Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify > and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6? > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues > people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, > then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. > > > > > > There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, > someone somewhere has solved those problems. > > > > > > > The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 > provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple > of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common > experience to draw from: > > > > > > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, > that's normal. > > > > > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. > > > > > > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. > > > > > > These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our > deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's > surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which > is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, > but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a video > of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s > > > > Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and > implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! > > > > > > > > > > AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. > > > > > > The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a > month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted > training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another > until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration > issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are > interested, make a request at?? > > > > > > bit.ly/6deployEN? ?(english) > > bit.ly/6deployFR? ? (french) > > > > As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what > actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to > deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that > incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.? We're also realising that > that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is > not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received > explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. > You don't want to see their response :( ? If you want to host one of our > DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country? ? - 5% teaching, 95% DOing > -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework - enables > you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours ? you can apply > at:?? > https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or?https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr > in french) ? 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