On 3/15/19 6:30 AM, Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote:
Good recommendations Toyin.
IPv6 discussions should accommodate both the policy, infrastructure,
technical skills to the business side. What I have learnt in project
governance is that there must be buying of the management to setting a
framework for successful implementation.
In my view, regulators need to have a total buying of the adoption of
IPv6 to setting a workable framework that can lead to a successful
implementation of IPv6 in Africa.
I did some research years ago into what government policies had worked
(or not worked) for promoting IPv6 deployment in a country, and what
else worked. I found that governments were most effective when they had
purchasing requirements that whatever product or service they bought
must use IPv6. That one policy meant that some government worker had to
work with local ISP(s) and local web host(s) to get IPv6. In a
competitive market, it's very helpful for the government to say, "The
ISP who can provide IPv6 first will win all of the government's Internet
access business. The web hosting company who can provide IPv6 will win
all of the government's hosting business." The nice thing is that the
web hosting company is then also pushing the ISP.
Once this happens, the next time somebody asks the ISP or web host for
IPv6, they can say yes.
On a related note, I have seen some countries whose government web sites
are hosted outside the country. A simple policy that government web
sites must be hosted in country, on IPv6, will provide better service to
citizens by making the web faster.
Also, the IPv6 conversation must well articulate the business side as
the main stakeholder are business oriented. Some of the questions
would be;
These are excellent questions!
* Would adoption of IPv6 lead to more coverage and profit digit
addition?
With the above government policies, yes! Also, as I said in an earlier
email, if your service is faster than your competitor, you may be able
to win more profit.
* What is the cost and organizational capacity for its deployment?
There is rarely significant capital cost. It's pretty much all labor:
the work of learning IPv6, and updating the provisioning and monitoring
systems, and of testing and configuring the routers and firewalls and
servers.
* Is the customer ready to pay for the additional cost that accrue
from IPv6 deployment?
There should not be additional costs to customers for IPv6. Instead,
look at the cost reduction of IPv6:
1. If you will need IPv4 addresses from Afrinic in 2020 or 2021, you
will not be able to get them. You will have to buy them from
somebody else in Africa, which (if they cost the same in Africa as
the rest of the world) by that time will cost US$40-50 each.
2. If you use CGN now (for instance, if you are a mobile provider), you
can reduce how much money you spend for CGN. If you will outgrow
your CGN box in a year, or five years, then by adopting IPv6, you
will have less traffic through your CGN, and may not need to replace
it. I know some mobile carriers who have cut their costs in half by
adopting IPv6.
I think the question to consider is whether customers will pay for the
additional cost of IPv4?
* Who burns the cost of training and re-training and that of the
challenges of the IPv6
Afrinic is on your side here. Their IPv6 Helpdesk is amazing, and their
training is fantastic. Ask them for help, and what it would take to get
training near you. Also, when Afrinic IPv6 training comes to your
country, during a meeting or independently, send everyone! After that
training, every network engineer, government IT manager, and software
developer in the country should be building IPv6 into everything they do.
Afrinic may be the best of the RIRs when it comes to IPv6 deployment
support. I've made a point of telling the other RIRs to pay attention to
what Mukom is doing.
* Are there any form of support or incentives to help help ISPs, big
tech company transition to IPv6?
The government incentive I mentioned above should help, as well as the
cost savings (avoiding new CGN or buying IPv4).
Moreso, IPv6 should be taken to the CEO, Directors, CIO as they hold
the key to the decision making.
Don't forget the marketing people. "We can improve the speed of our
service/web site by doing this" is pretty great; there are many articles
about how people are more likely to buy from a faster e-commerce site.
Also, if your web site is faster, you will appear higher in Google's
search rankings. If you run a company that sells bicycles, you know that
when people Google "bicycles" you want to be the first site they see,
not the 15th. Page load speed is one of the things Google uses to decide
how to rank the results. If people are 50% more likely to click on the
first three results, and 15% more likely to buy from a web site that
they don't have to wait for, speed is very important to the company.
Asking the hosting company to turn on IPv6 for your web site is a very
easy way to increase sales.
Lee
Regards.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:52 PM Toyin Oloniteru
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On IPv6 Adoption and Usage
I think we are missing the Public Policy Agenda Setting elements.
We are excessively focused on the technology side. We are lacking
in the media and communication strategy area, which must be dealt
with. For example are we educating and informing the public
properly and sufficiently on:
a. The reason for IPv6 though IPv4 works
b. The relationship between IPv6 and IoTs in particular and
emerging technologies generally - robotics, sensors and their use
cases/applications
c. Propositions on transition from IPv4 to IPv6
d. Push for c) above at select public sector organizations and
Higher Educational Institutions (HEIs). Push for these
organizations to start making budget proposals to their approving
authorities on IPv4 to IPv6 transition. Let the authorities
decline. It is part of public policies agenda setting.
My recommendations
1. Start building media awareness strategy through working groups
2. Be more aggressive in the area of IPv4 to IPv6 Transition Forum
& Workshops and conference organising
3. Work on Public Policy Agenda setting Media (Traditional and
Digital) strategy
4. Bring together the supply side (technology/solution providers)
and demand side (users - current and prospectives) on the subject
matter
The above are my immediate a little contribution.
Sincerely.
HHI Olutoyin J Oloniteru
Abuja, Nigeria.
On Mar 14, 2019 8:08 PM, "Akinremi Peter Taiwo"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I quite agree with you Kolawole that more awareness of IPv6 is
needed. But thinking from a business perspective, awareness
wouldn't really matter if old technology is working and still
given a satisfactory results. I probably believe that it is
TIME that would determine the rate of IPv6 adoption.
Regards.
Peter
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM kolawole Adewale
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
More awareness still needs to be done in the areas of
benfits. I feel tech operators in Africa, especially
(medium ones)feel reluctant to migrate to IPv6 because of
their lack of awareness the IPv6 brings.
Kudos to AFRINIC on thier efforts.
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> To: [email protected]
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> Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to
IPv6 but unfortunately, for African Operators in each
country, there is also a risk. Every day elapsed before
this transition moves them towards a very risky situation.
I talk about Business and also technical risks.
Unfortunately, the majority of operators has an urgency
mindset.??I am really convinced that in order to encourage
them to transit to IPv6, African Communities has to focus
on risks and the urgency aspect of the transition. For
example leading studies in order to produce a kind of SWOT
Matrix, adapted to the African context, establishing
Strengths, Weaknesses, Threats and Opportunities.
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> Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 15:51:06 UTC+1, Lee
Howard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> a ?crit :
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> On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via
AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
>
>
> I think that Top management is not enough aware of
business opportunities behind IPv6 migration.? Sure IPv6
will give them the opportunity to address a high number of
objects, equipements, services,....? but it is not limited
to that. Top management has to encourage their people to
be express their innovation capabilities in a such a way
to contribute to the developpement of Value Added
Services.? Providers who will not propose new competitive
service catalogue will simply die in globalized world. Top
management has to know hat IPv6 is a real pillar of IT
governance.
>
> I agree with that. I have several presentations on
business reasons for IPv6, which I imagine overlap with
AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives training:
>
> - Not running out of addresses, so you can keep
adding customers
> - Faster [1]
>
> - Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher;
more customers see your web site
>
> - Because it's faster, users spend more time on the
page; more ad revenue
>
> - IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks
if not secured
> - Use addresses to identify services; easier policy
routing, ACLs, security, troubleshooting, etc.
> - New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM
[draft-fear-ippm-mpdm]
> - Simpler container networking [2]
>
> - Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH,
it's all just IP. [3]
>
>
> The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not
widely available yet, but are examples of innovations
enabled by IPv6. I didn't even list "It's not NAT" because
you're likely to use some kind of address sharing to reach
legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines as others
deploy, and it may be cheaper than NAT44.
>
> IPv6 is cool.
>
>
> Lee
>
>
> [1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB
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>
> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o
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> [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0
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> Regards?
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> Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI
PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> a ?crit :
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>
> Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?,
the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs
of important companies in each country (financial sectors,
companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).
>
> ?
>
> I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their
region) a few years ago.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
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> De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <[email protected]
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> Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to
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> Dear All,
>
> I think there is also another solution which is to
inform the operators in each country of the situation
because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will
not be possible to use it optimally.
> I do not know if a provision to that effect has already
been taken but I think that all the members are aware of
the situation.
>
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> Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
> Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things
that stop people moving to IPv6 ?
>
> >
> > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of
their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer
buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer
education about IP is a good idea.
>
>
>
> Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP
(whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features
that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.
>
>
> This is one place where I see the role of governments.
In the interest of national development, just ban
importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what
is already done with type approval in telecommunications
today.
>
>
>
> > ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for
support, so they can't get upgrades.
> > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get
resold at deep discounts.
>
>
> I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse,
some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation
Internet aid or technical corporation") which further
cripples IPv6 deployment.
>
> >
> > Something that has worked for some companies is an
"ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an
ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied
with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP,
lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a
sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for
use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for
someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so
ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.
>
>
> In addition, I believe that with two days of training
(regulators and customs) and the appropriate
infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government
implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that
wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting
list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self
Assessment at ?
>
> ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
> FRENCH ? ?https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr
>
>
> > For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still
am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production
supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage
point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a
result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to
grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more
open and honest about the challenges and problems with it
? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move
to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have
no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major
problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see
deployment continue to stutter
>
>
> I agree with the above. The solution is not just another
open "discussion" where people who have not even started
any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what
percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go
on an on about problems they've only heard about.
>
>
> >
> > Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How
can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with
IPv6?
> >
>
>
> Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of
SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a
deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a
webinar or discussion at AIS.
>
>
> There are probably about 400million users using IPv6
today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those
problems.
>
>
> > The common theme in my answers above is that more
people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving
problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do
three things, we'd have a very broad base of common
experience to draw from:
> >
> > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes
several revisions, that's normal.
> >
> > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
> >
> > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your
backbone.
>
>
> These are things that we've helped operators implement
in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions
during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators
need help with their address planning. Which is why not
only do we teach them how to determine how much space they
get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those
interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC
webinar can be found at
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s
>
> Step by step walk-through of address planning best
practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!
>
>
> >
> > AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources.
>
>
> The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE
operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we
keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them
from one deployment milestone to another until we get
stuck with incompatible equipment or internal
collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours
investment per week. If you are interested, make a request
at??
>
>
> bit.ly/6deployEN <http://bit.ly/6deployEN>? ?(english)
> bit.ly/6deployFR <http://bit.ly/6deployFR>? ? (french)
>
> As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount
of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from
real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with
over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible
equipment is not in the top 5.? We're also realising that
that argument from big operators about "customers aren't
asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators
that within 2 months have received explicitly written
requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers.
You don't want to see their response :( ? If you want
to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country?
? - 5% teaching, 95% DOing -?using our Prototype??
Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework - enables you hit
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ready or not their organisations are, take our free
Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment
at??https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en?
(or?https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
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