My thoughts exactly. Either my clients are dumb or don't care, and let me do
the stuff, or they are smart and fumble around with their system. If the
latter is the case, they can just as well install Phing. I really find the
concept very, very appealing.

- David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Bob Zoller
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:52 PM
> To: Agavi Development
> Subject: Re: [agavi-dev] Re: The merging-my-branch discussion
> 
> Why would they have to run phing tasks?  Wouldn't *you* compile the
> configs and distribute them as part of the installation package that
> you send to the client?
> --Bob
> 
> On 11/24/05, Markus Lervik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Veikko Mäkinen wrote:
> >
> > >> Proposal: I back this DONT_COMPILE_TEH_CONFIGS_YOU_RETARD flag out,
> > >> and we
> > >> add such a functionality together with the phing task in 0.11. I
> could
> > >> also
> > >> imagine this: with AG_DEBUG set to off, config checks aren't
> performed,
> > >> nothing is compiled etc, and you'd have to call the task manually. I
> > >> think
> > >> this is even better, isn't it? In production environments, configs
> change
> > >> almost never, so it would be fine to do it this way.
> >
> > > So:
> > > - I'm in favor of keeping the current behaviour (debug=on/off) and
> only
> > > adding more choices (cache time-to-live and/or cache "freezing").
> >
> > I agree on this one; I'd rather go for what me and Veikko talked about
> > a few nights ago; having an AG_CACHE_TTL(?) setting where -1 would mean
> > never compile the configs, 0 would mean always compile the config and
> > anything else would mean compile the cache after a certain amount of
> > seconds/minutes, ie. AG_CACHE_TTL = 3600 would mean recompile the
> > cache once per hour.
> >
> > I certainly wouldn't want to require my clients to pop up a terminal,
> > ssh into the server and start running phing tasks.
> >
> >
> > - markus
> >
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