John answered the question. Qualia = sensory input compressed for communication. A thermostat has qualia because it compresses its input to one bit (too hot/too cold) and communicates it to the heater.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 2:00 PM Jim Bromer via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <[email protected]> > > > > > > What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, > > > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and > how > > > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test? > > That is an ontologically flawed question. > > Jim Bromer > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:34 AM John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <[email protected]> > > > > > > You didn't answer my question. What is qualia? How do I know if > monkeys, > > > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and > how > > > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test? > > > > > > > Qualia = Compressed impressed samples symbolized for communication. How > do you even know that a fish is a fish? How do you prove that it exists? By > using qualia, and something with qualia originally symbolized it for > transmission into the human general consciousness. > > > > Do fish have qualia? Ans.: Do they communicate? Does a fish know that > another fish is a fish? I think so. They use another type of signaling and > alphabet than humans but their multi-agent signaling is coherent in > relation to the species group. If they did not have qualia the fish group > would show incoherence. > > > > You're more asking if you take a fish and isolate it how do you know if > it has qualia. > > > > I would ask you, if you are given a single lossily compressed sample of > sensory input how do you that the original uncompressed sample exists (or > existed)? How do you prove it? Maybe there is no original. Maybe it doesn't > exist therefore qualia would not exist. > > > > John > > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9c94dabb0436859d-M36475a793ec2ac21cae9cadd Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
