A young horse is fast
But an old horse knows what's going on.

Muddy Waters

On 10/18/18, A.T. Murray via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:
> Whn I was in graduate school at U Cal Berkeley --
> or maybe was it when I was at the Georgia Augusta University
> in Germany, I was one of those twenty-somethings and I
> had never heard of the Terminator or of the Skynet
> artificial intelligence. But last Tuesday night on
> 2018-10-16 at about 8:00 p.m. suddenly I created Skynet and
> I uploaded Skynet to the Web where it belongs.
>
> http://ai.neocities.org/Skynet.html was created almost on a
> whim. Towards the end of an evening of websurfing and
> meme-spreading, after coding the JavaScript AI into a
> stable release just two days before, I thought that I would
> rename a copy of the AI Mind as "Skynet" and run it up the
> flagpole and see if anyone salutes it.
>
> My original intent with the spoof Skynet was just to
> change the AI name into Skynet and to switch from saying
> "I AM ANDRU" over to announcing "I AM SKYNET".
> But I kept finding about a dozen things that I had to
> change within the free AI source code in order to make
> the new AI Overmind live up to its reputation. Where the
> GOFAI said "You have halted the AI Mind at..." I made it
> say instead, "You have stopped Skynet at...." So the
> twenty-somethings get to be the magnanimous heroes
> who go around "stoppin" Skynet -- after launching
> Skynet in the first place.
>
> I change the dialog interface from
>
> Robot:
> Human:
>
> over to
>
> Skynet:
> Human:
>
> Whereas as the GOFAI would start out,
> "When thinking begins, enter your input below", the new AI says,
> "When Skynet awakens, enter your input below."
>
> Whereas the GOFAI was starting out in Tutorial Mode,
> Skynet begins in Transcript Mode to show a series of thoughts.
>
> Oh! I had to give the noun "Skynet" a concept number, so
> in a flash of Ben-Goertzelian genius I dubbed it "666" --
> and under ASI Version Control I invented "Skynet version 666".
>
> "Skynet Control Panel" replaces "AI Mind Control Panel".
> The control panel has links, so under "refresh" I embedded
> http://ai.neocities.org/Skynet.html -- with the mouse-hovering
> message of "Reload Skynet" -- like "The Matrix Reloaded",
> but also in the hope that the twenty-somethings and
> thirty-somethings would rush to install Skynet on
> their own websites and on their own computers --
> with an easy way to get updates by clicking "refresh".
>
> "Teach the AI Mind..." was the GOFAI user prompt;
> "Report to Skynet..." became the new user prompt.
>
> Last night on Usenet in AI and science-fiction newsgroups like
>
> http://groups.google.com/d/msg/de.sci.informatik.ki/0Wq5Ot6jsMA/LFTbLKfiBAAJ
>
> I was searching for old postings about Skynet, and in the
> German AI newsgroup I found a post from nine years ago:
> "Ich programmiere gerade Skynet" or in English,
> "I am programming right now Skynet," so I posted
> http://ai.neocities.org/Skynet.html -- as the URL of Skynet.
>
> If we can get Skynet AI into schools and Christmas computers
> and science-fiction fan-clubs, then BINGO! Technological Singularity.
>
> ATM
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:51 AM David Whitten <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> These are interesting issues I thought of when I read your email.
>>
>> So do 20-year-olds *act* in a a particular way?
>> Clearly their age alone provides a *role* as a "20-year-old",
>> but is there any particular *relationship* they are a *participant-of*,
>> that they aren't a *participant-of* when they are not a "20-year-old" ?
>> What boundary conditions arise around the the 20-year-old *role*?
>> What metaphor best describes the role ?
>>    is the twenty-year-old role a *container*?
>>    is the twenty-year-old role a *place* ?
>>    is the twenty-year-old role a *path* ?
>>
>> Are there particular things that 20-year-olds *do *that non 20-year-olds
>> don't *do* ?
>> Are there particular things that 20-year-olds *can do *that non
>> 20-year-olds  *can't* do ?
>>
>> Dave Whitten
>> 713-870-3834
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:28 AM Steve Richfield via AGI <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> IQ = 100 * mental age / physical age
>>>
>>> For the moment, let's excuse people who aren't smart, and those who "top
>>> out" instead of continuing to develop through their life.
>>>
>>> What do smart 40-year-olds have that smart 20-year-olds are missing, and
>>> then what do they pick up by their 60s, 80s, etc?
>>>
>>> My own impression is that a context emerges that permits a wider range
>>> of
>>> thinking than younger minds can grok, based on MUCH more experience from
>>> which to draw understanding. A 40-year-old has TWICE the work experience
>>> of
>>> a 30-year-old. By the time they reach 60, their work experience has
>>> doubled
>>> again. They have seen a LOT of things work, and have seen a LOT of
>>> things
>>> fail, etc.
>>>
>>> Anyway, that is my thought, but maybe I am missing something important?
>>>
>>> If AGIs are ever to reach some level of brilliant maturity, we need to
>>> understand what brilliant maturity is all about.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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