please enable a filter to spare this list from this nonstop bullshit ...

On 10/02/2019 00:43, A.T. Murray wrote:
The curious AGI-esque results in thinking and in conversation are very
new and were achieved not yet in the JavaScript FirstWorkingAGI.html but
rather _as_described_in_the_AGI_post in the ghost.292.pl <http://ghost.292.pl> AI in Perl and then more elaborately _as_described_in_the_AGI_post in the ghost294.pl <http://ghost294.pl> AI in Perl. Achievements in one of the three AI Minds eventually get ported into
the other two AI Minds, but the very first announcements of a result
usually refere to only one of the AI Minds -- the one in which the
result was first achieved.

So if any any AGI-list memeber downloads http://ai.neocities.org/perlmind.txt and uses Strawberry Perl Five or some similar Perl to run the Perlmind code,
the claimed results should appear as posted to the AGI mail-list.

However, on an important other matter called "The 'Pizza with...' demo"
as described by Stefan Reich in the
http://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9ccd0aac7d42f57b post of 2019-02-06 to
this AGI mail-list and as shown further
at http://tinybrain.de/1021251 by Stefan Reich, Mentifex here has come up
with a different approach but has not yet coded the idea now on-line in
the "Future Development" section of the
http://ai.neocities.org/EnPrep.html#future webpage on logical inference:

7. Future Development

The AI Minds with the concept-based, first working artificial intelligence will evolve beyond simple subject-verb-object (SVO) thought-structures into mentalities which may include a prepositional phrase in association with any noun or verb or adjective or adverb. The seq flag may be used to attach a prepositional phrase to a previous word.

In the future, an AI Mind may be able to disambiguate sentences with prepositions in a way which reasons from the following inputs.

    Human: john eats with a fork
    Ghost:

    Human: john is with bob
    Ghost:

    Human: john eats pizza with a fork
    Ghost:

    Human: john eats pizza with bob
    Ghost:

    Human: john eats pizza with anchovies
    Ghost:

First the SpreadAct module must evolve sufficiently to spread action from one concept in a statement to all associated concepts -- subject, verb, object or preposition. At that point, the inputs presented above may yield an associative knowledge base that links each instance of the preposition "with" back to its truly corresponding concept, from "with Bob" back to "John"; from "with a fork" back to "eats"; and from "with anchovies" back to "pizza". The AI Mind may then be able to respond properly to queries in the following manner.

    Human: Who eats pizza?
    Ghost: JOHN EATS PIZZA AND BOB EATS PIZZA

    Human: How does John eat pizza?
    Ghost: JOHN EATS PIZZA WITH A FORK

    Human: What does John eat?
    Ghost: JOHN EATS PIZZA WITH ANCHOVIES

The AI will think and output each response because the concepts in the response have been activated by the SpreadAct module, and because the preliminary ideas in the knowledge base have established retroactive associations from the concept "with" to the proper antecedent.


On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:37 AM Stefan Reich via AGI <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I mean, we're all tired of this now, but, one last time... I'm
    taking you at your exact words.

    I entered *exactly your example* on *your page*
    (https://ai.neocities.org/FirstWorkingAGI.html). First I typed
    "John has a house", then "What does John have". The system said
    nothing, then just this: "I HELP KIDS"

    So it does not even do what you claim it does.

    Do you accept this as a bug report? Or do you not even care if
    anything you say is true? Did I enter the lines in the wrong
    place? (Then that's also a valid bug report.)

    Come on dude. I'm sure you're capable of sanity. You have working
    vocabulary, just the semantics have a major bug (diagnosing you
    like one would an AI).

    On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 13:26, A.T. Murray <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Recently in alt.folklore.computers on Usenet our name was
        taken in vain and counter-compensated as follows:

        >> I wanna see Gareth write Alexa and have it
        >> work as well as Amazon's version.
        >        Hasn't Mentifex already done that ?

        No. Mentifex has not written software that looks up and
        tells you the score of the football game in progress, or ships
        pizza to your doorstep.

        Mentifex has written three AI Mind programs in Perl and Forth
        and JavaScript
        which converse with you and learn new words from you in
        English or Russian.

        http://ai.neocities.org/EnVerbPhrase.html -- shows the latest
        AI progress:

        3.D. Leaving out the repetitious verb from any additional
        phrase being joined together with a first phrase for a
        resulting compound sentence that may be replaced with a single
        one-phrase sentence containing one or more conjunctions.

        The user may tell the AI Mind two things:

            John has a house
            John has a car

        The user may then ask the AI:

            What does John have

        The ghost292.pl <http://ghost292.pl> AI was able to respond
        with the following output:

        THE JOHN HAS THE HOUSE AND THE JOHN HAS THE CAR I UNDERSTAND YOU

        Suppose that we want the AI Mind to join two sentences together:

            JOHN HAS A HOUSE
            and
            JOHN HAS A CAR


            By not repeating the subject, we get:
            JOHN HAS A HOUSE
            and
            JOHN HAS A CAR


            By not repeating the subject and the verb, we get:
            JOHN HAS A HOUSE
            and
            JOHN HAS A CAR

        The AI coding task for ghost294.pl <http://ghost294.pl> in
        Perl was how to get the sentence-generation modules to skip
        repeating the subject and skip repeating the verb. Note that
        even a human being will sometimes dawdle or linger while
        uttering the compound-setences, as in:
        "John has a house...and a car...and a lawnmower...and a canoe,
        etc."

        It was necessary to use one of the "chain" or "conCATenation"
        variables:


            our $catiobj = 0;   # 2019-01-28: concat-indirect-object
        for ConJoin() "AND".
            our $catdobj = 0;   # 2019-01-28: concat-direct-object for
        ConJoin() "AND".
            our $catsubj = 0;   # 2019-01-28: concat-subject for
        ConJoin() "AND".
            our $catverb = 0;   # 2019-01-28: concat-verb for
        ConJoin() "AND".

        We load the $catsubj
        <http://ai.neocities.org/var.html#catsubj> variable inside the
        query-response code in the SpreadAct
        <http://ai.neocities.org/SpreadAct.html> module. After the
        first phrase in response to a query, such as "JOHN HAS A
        HOUSE", the AI may check each activated idea for starting with
        $/catsubj/ <http://ai.neocities.org/var.html#catsubj> and for
        having $/catverb/ <http://ai.neocities.org/var.html#catverb>
        in the second place. In that way, the various direct-objects
        may be isolated, introduced with "AND" from ConJoin
        <http://ai.neocities.org/ConJoin.html>, and sent into the
        Speech <http://ai.neocities.org/Speech.html> module for the
        output of a meandering, run-on response such as "JOHN HAS A
        HOUSE AND A CAR AND A BOAT AND A SLED AND A MOTORCYCLE". Such
        an AI output is like human speech, where the person states the
        basic premise before even thinking of all the nouns about to
        be concatenated with "AND" into the meandering response.

        Once the chain-variables are loaded with the concept-numbers
        of the items to be omitted for the syncopation or shortening
        of a compound-sentence, each item is omitted simply by letting
        Indicative <http://ai.neocities.org/Indicative.html> call
        EnNounPhrase <http://ai.neocities.org/EnNounPhrase.html> or
        EnVerbPhrase <http://ai.neocities.org/EnVerbPhrase.html> but
        preemptively using conditionals to make each module "return"
        to Indicative <http://ai.neocities.org/Indicative.html> before
        sending a noun or a verb into the Speech
        <http://ai.neocities.org/Speech.html> module. Special code in
        the EnVerbPhrase <http://ai.neocities.org/EnVerbPhrase.html>
        module must still call EnNounPhrase
        <http://ai.neocities.org/EnNounPhrase.html> to provide the
        direct object of the omitted verb.





-- Stefan Reich
    BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems

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