It's easier to break a mold than gluing it back together again. Let's not male science our god, nor our demon. It's still up to us to procure meaning from chaos, or at least to describe such an observation via an appropriate, qualitative and quantitative language.
I'm in favor of experimental science, but there has to be a discipline involved, else it's just hacking away till you've deforested the forest. Your point on the speed of light? Most interesting. Perhaps a more-practical example of "going faster than the speed of light" would be useful. I suppose, it'll all end in a static, spot of white light, wouldn't it? Just as it began. Ask yourself this; would an AGI entity be having this kind of discussion, and if so, how would it flow? ________________________________ From: johnr...@polyplexic.com <johnr...@polyplexic.com> Sent: Sunday, 01 September 2019 23:54 To: AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> Subject: Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings On Friday, August 30, 2019, at 2:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: But, I strongly disagree with the following statement, for it contains an inherent contradiction. "It is allowed to break physics or invent new ones in a virtual world." No, they should not be allowed. The definition of engineering, as putting method to science, denounces such anarchism. Engineers have to take method and use it in context of science. If no science exists yet, they seemingly have the obligation to try equally hard to develop and formalize it. What I meant, for example that old saying, what goes faster than the speed of light? Thought. I always considered that stupid but it actually isn’t. If you have models in a software virtual world they can break all kinds of physics (and mathematics) in an attempt to shortcut to solutions and/or model more accurately with existing resources. A Few wise Yogi quotes: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." "We made too many wrong mistakes." "If the world was perfect, it wouldn’t be." What is one way to bypass combinatorial explosions? Break rules. Shhh it’s a secret :) and it’s OK. That’s how things work. John Artificial General Intelligence List<https://agi.topicbox.com/latest> / AGI / see discussions<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-Ma37955495624271bf462819d> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-M9b29a1bfee52310754e0969b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
