Yeah but in all reality, your AI project isn't going anywhere, Mentifex.

Granted, my progress is also hampered by poverty and such, but I do have
something to show and loads of ideas up my sleeve.

With you, I see zero innovation. No new use case solved, nothing, over the
past, what, 2 years? No forays into anything other than text (vision,
auditory, whatever)?

Be a little realistic. I don't hate you, but man it is painful to see
someone claim something that is not real.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 22:53, A.T. Murray <[email protected]> wrote:

> From the Mentifex Autobiography (link at bottom):
>
> "In the mail that year I received a subscription copy of an issue of
> Scientific American devoted totally to the human brain. One of the authors,
> Dr. David Hubel at Harvard, had written both the foreword and one of the
> major articles, so I figured that this scientist named Hubel was the most
> worthy to receive a copy of my paper, and I mailed it to him at Harvard
> University. I also mailed a copy of it to my scientific hero in
> Switzerland, the Nobelist Sir John Carew Eccles. Months later, Dr. Hubel at
> Harvard wrote back to me that "neural modeling" was not his specialty, and
> so I should send the paper to either David Marr or Tomaso Poggio. I looked
> both of them up in the university library, and it seemed that David Marr
> had done the more important work in the field of vision, so I mailed the
> paper to Marr, who eventually wrote back -- from his deathbed -- that I
> should send the paper to a certain AI researcher at the Massachusetts
> Institute of Technology and not expect an answer but still send the paper.
> I did not bother to send the paper, and anyway that researcher was
> eventually implicated in a major scandal. On the other hand, one day about
> eight months after the mailing of the paper to Switzerland, I was
> absolutely shocked to receive an airmail letter from the Nobelist in
> neuroscience Sir John Carew Eccles. It was so amazing to me to have that
> letter in my hand, that at first I could not open it. I just sat in an
> armchair and stared at the letter from Eccles for ten or twenty or thirty
> minutes, while my mind was racing with a brainstorm of thoughts of what it
> would mean to now be in touch with arguably the world's foremost authority
> on the human brain. When I finally did open the letter, I was flattered to
> read that Sir Eccles thought that I was making a serious contribution. He
> suggested that I send the paper to a certain researcher in New York, but I
> never did."
>
> "A few years later, Dr. David Hubel shared a Nobel prize for his work
> explaining the human visual system. Since I had now heard from two
> Nobelists in neuroscience who took me seriously, I became impervious to the
> slings and arrows of Mentifex-bashers who hounded and vilified me on the
> Internet. The bashing took very strange and unusual forms, though. I
> gradually discovered that in every AI-related newsgroup (discussion forum)
> on Usenet, there was always at least one individual who considered himself
> something like "the king of the hill," or the resident authority on the
> subject matter. These lords of the flies did not like me coming in and
> making my ESC (Extraordinary Scientific Claim) that I was creating True AI
> or Strong AI or Artificial General Intelligence or whatever the
> nomenclature was. Since I believed in my theory of mind, I also believed
> very strongly in the AI software that I was trying to write. But the more I
> tried to communicate my results, the more I was taken for some kind of
> nutcase who was not only wrong but was absolutely convinced that he was
> right. One netgod of Usenet wrote the very first Mentifex FAQ or
> "Frequently Asked Questions" about Mentifex. Other Netizens started doing
> things like putting an anti-Mentifex statement in the "SIG" or "signature"
> block below their Usenet posts. Or they would e-mail me and ask me
> something, then go on anti-Mentifex vendettas for years. I discovered that
> the film director who made Saving Private Ryan had suffered a similar fate
> at the start of his career when he was just one of the guys at a movie
> studio and his co-workers deeply resented both his efforts to rise above
> them and his success in rising above them. Luckily for me, I actually
> enjoyed writing the AI software and getting it to work better and better."
>
> http://ai.neocities.org/mylife33.html -- My Life at Age Thirty-Three
>
> http://ai.neocities.org/VisRecog.html -- Visual Recognition Module
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