Oh, one can but dream. Sarcasm tends to work like that. By your argument, accountants could instantly save 50% on the government salary bill by effectively halving the current salaries of all government employees and moving the savings over to the fully unemployed. In the absence of this, more costs could be saved by reducing the salaries of government-related financial managers and accountants by 8% and buying more "intelligent machines" who would do such-like calculations more effectively.
We seem to have many fruitfully unemployed on this forum. As a figmentive suggestion, the savings on human calculators could possibly be distributed to relevant forum members who are helping to develop the next generation of intelligent machines. But first, a qualifying, guessing game: "Which major investor in the pandemic also is reportedly a major investor in OpenCog, this year being rolled out globally in many versions of a 1st generation AGI? Ties in neatly with an "investor-related" global biotech patent registered in June 2020. What are the chances? And there we were, thinking altruism was dead and buried. Tsk! Tsk! (note the sarcasm). Stop giving your best ideas away on agenda-driven forums and "chats", hoping for recognition and funds. You're being knowledge harvested without even a carrot in sight. This seems to be what AGI is really about; free, passive income generation for the elite membership of the alliance of the 'Internet of Everything', using humankind as the fodder. Seems, it's just another static, pyramid scheme, and "we're" never going to get a turn at the top. There then Matt Mahoney, there's your harsh reality check you were hunting for. Therefore, I'd recommend rather getting on with a new product (a minimum of 10 x faster, 10 x cheaper, 10 x more efficient), then publishing via internationally-recognized registration and/or patenting the idea first, thereafter promoting it for interest/investment purposes. Else, it may become public domain and you'll lose your IP. Now, the "intellectual" bar is being set extremely high. Extremely. We live in extreme times. Soon, AGI won't need any of us anymore. Having designed our own intellectual Nemesis, we'll have nothing of significance left to contribute to it, or left to compete with. In summary, a fantastical thought. On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 2:02 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 5:57 AM Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a > six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back > full employment." > > > > Would this mean that government employees would have to productively > work 2 hours extra per day? > > This would only work in a fantasy model of economics where jobs are > interchangeable and at no cost. In reality, we have both unemployment > and a labor shortage. It costs 1% of lifetime earnings to the employer > and employee to change jobs within similar fields, and much longer to > learn a new field. > > So in this fantasy world, we would already be at full employment. > Reducing hours by 25% would reduce GDP by 25%, resulting in a 3 year > decrease in life expectancy. (Each doubling of income adds 5 years). > > And we don't WANT full employment. 60% of Americans don't work now, > and we are fine with that. Some are too young or too old or busy > raising children or disabled or have low IQ or criminal records or are > addicted to drugs. Unemployment statistics only count those with job > skills who are being paid by the government to not work. > > What we want are intelligent machines that will make work easier, > safer and more productive, raising our incomes while lowering the > costs of goods and services. > > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T50e86f61cc07a7b3-M07e071426fde2b890f273d90 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
