In the event you misunderstood the scare-quotes around "We" it was not in
order that you propose a world more like "Brave New World" (1932), in which
willing compliance is an accomplished fact, than "1984" (1949), in which it
its accomplishment is only apparent at the end with Winston worshiping Big
Brother.  This is all very old territory, which I attempted to point out by
citing "We" (1921) which portrays a world much more like the one
you, in 2024, envision.

Yes, it is far from perfected, that vision from 1921, but Huxley did a
pretty good job of taking your part if only you would bother reading the
original.  From the moment of zygote on, development is guided toward
"willing" compliance.

And what of this evolutionary direction of this identity you invoke with
"We", but the reversion to the individual organism once again, except
absent the diversity that now exists in many individual organisms?  You've
often talked in the past about the degree of intelligence embodied by
energy flux through vast numbers of individual organisms, each exploring
the quasi-Hamming space of DNA's embodied intelligence.

What is your replacement for this diversity?


On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:53 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, 8:12 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 10:01 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> .... We want to be controlled. We are spending trillions on making it
>>> happen.
>>>
>>
>> "We"
>>
>> https://youtu.be/BVLvQcO7JGk
>>
>
> I didn't read "We" but I did read "1984", the book it inspired. The part
> it got right was the surveillance. The part it got wrong was how it would
> be used to control people. We want AI to watch us because it works better
> that way. We let banks track our spending because credit cards and online
> shopping are more convenient than cash. We let Google track our movements
> in return for driving directions that avoid traffic. We let Amazon listen
> to everything we say so we can turn on lights in another room and
> play music.
>
> The illusions of qualia, consciousness, and free will are the result of
> internal positive reinforcement of perception, thinking, and action,
> respectively. These illusions evolved so you would have a reason to live,
> thus producing more offspring.
>
> When you are controlled by external positive reinforcement, it strengthens
> the illusion of free will. Wolpert's law says that a computer cannot
> predict its own output (the special case of two computers being unable to
> model each other when they are identical). Just because you can't predict
> your own actions doesn't mean an AI that knows more about you than you do
> can't predict them. You will reliably choose the action you believe will
> result in the greatest reward because it was rewarded in the past.
>
> Just like video recognition and video generation are inverse functions of
> each other, so are prediction and control. Prediction is a function that
> inputs the past and outputs the future. Control is a function that inputs
> the future and outputs the past.
>
> We will have our utopia. We don't want to stop it.
>
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