Did some reading. aboyt Dyson spheres. Fascinating concept. Thanks for the headsup. Down to Earth, the following is AI's version of our state of civilization. Q: If less than 10% of the global population achieves 0.75, does that mean the whole civilization did? Nope. We're still in the Type I's infancy. Lots of opportunity to really ramp this up.
The Kardashev Scale – Detailed BreakdownThe Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization’s level of technological advancement based on its ability to harness and use energy. It was proposed in 1964 by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev.There are three original types, plus several commonly accepted extensions. Type Energy Consumption (watts) Description & Examples Where Humanity Stands (2025) 0 < 10¹⁰ W (10 MW) Pre-industrial or tribal societies. Energy from muscle power, fire, water/wind mills. We passed this long ago I ~10¹⁶ W (planetary scale) Controls all available energy on a single planet (weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, all sunlight hitting the surface, geothermal, etc.). We are here: ~0.73 (2025) II ~10²⁶ W (stellar scale) Harnesses the total energy output of a star (full Dyson sphere/swarm, star lifting, etc.). Far future III ~10³⁶ W (galactic scale) Controls the energy of an entire galaxy (~100 billion stars). Black-hole farming, galaxy-wide Dyson swarms. Extremely far future IV ~10⁴⁶ W (universal scale) (Extended) Uses the energy of an entire universe or many superclusters. Often associated with manipulating spacetime itself. Pure speculation V ≥10⁵⁶ W or beyond (Extended) Controls multiple universes, the multiverse, or can create/destroy universes at will. God-like / science fiction On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 3:40 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 12:03 AM Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I agree with Musk. If exawatts is what it's going to take, then exawatts >> we must have (think wavefunction). >> > > Think Dyson sphere. The sun outputs 385 million exawatts, of which 0.16 is > intercepted by the earth and 0.09 reaches the surface. > >> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M4c7dbf8afa5b393ac893f5f3> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M9b4d779c381bd879654e2df5 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
