On Fri, Oct 16, 2026, 11:37 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2026, 9:02 PM James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 6:12 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
>> wrote:...
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>>> The SAIC remote vision results were examined by a believer and a
>>> skeptic, who came to opposite conclusions as you would expect.
>>>
>>
>> Well, my goodness!  That settles it then.
>>
>> Seriously, Matt, I have offered an operational definition for
>> consciousness.  One might at least address it.
>>
>
> I thought I did. You said:
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> > I'm referring to what might be referred to as paranormal perception.
>
> I don't have paranormal perception.
>

Whether you know you have it or not is irrelevant.  There are some tests
that Ed May has come up with that will fool you into exhibiting paranormal
perception against your will. I haven't run across a case where they didn't
work.

I didn't mention them because there is abuse potential and they are not
pertinent to the present question:

Is there any distinction between humans and computers with regard to a
reasonable operational definition of consciousness?

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