Interesting...
Opportunity(rewards, risks, costs)
Seems like it's missing something. How does one attain the opportunity? Should
it be the following?
Opportunity(goal, rewards, risks, costs)
Also, since we have opportunities wouldn't we also have Threats? Is that the
other side of the same coin, or would one notion handle them both?
Also, I'm thinking of using past prioritizations as an input to the attention
module.
Priority(agenda, candidates, selection, performance)
Where the agenda is a set of open goals currently being pursued, candidates is
a list of goals to be considered for the agenda. and selection is the goal to
be added,performance is a measure of how well the selection did in the past
(some simple measure like "# successes / # times chosen", or derived from prior
problem solvingepisodes).
This would differ from the HTN planning method which would be in a different
phase.
Method(goal, conditions, subgoals)
which would determines how to achieve a goal already on the agenda.
The priority (or preference -- call it what you will) determines what to put on
the agenda, whilst the method determines how to attain items already on the
agenda.
Still thinking about it, though.
Your thoughts?
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:51:50 -0600
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [agi] Attention
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Probably rewards, risks and costs could be used to hold everything.
> Could probably make it one dimensional - all in terms of goodness.
>
> My choice of terms is to allow me to organize my thinking. If I use the
> word recipe, it is because I know recipes involve ingredients and
> procedural steps. Both of these "aspects" of a recipe can present
> problems for me as a "cook." If I think about each aspect individually,
> I have less to focus on at one moment. It is this "breakdown" of the
> task that allows me to manage the overall job.
>
> If I start at the most abstract level, I have huge landscape to take in.
> If I attempt to assess risk in the broad sense, it could mean thinking
> about risk of legality, risk of bad components, risk of liability, risk
> of breakdown, risk of shortage...
>
> What I want to do is have a way of looking at things that will help me
> stay in perspective. Keep the balance, properly weigh the various
> elements. Richard Loosemore once said (paraphrase) that creating the
> system would only be small part of it, tuning would be the bulk of the
> problem. (he may have been talking about neural networks...)
>
> Anyway Mike, I'm trying to go beyond abstract and get down to what could
> be implemented. From PM's questions, I'm guessing that he is geared
> toward implementation.
>
> Stan
>
> On 06/12/2012 11:23 AM, Mike Tintner wrote:
> > Stan,
> >
> > Why not just the standard *rewards, risks and costs* as choice
> > dimensions? I think they cover everything, but always willing to hear a
> > counterargument...
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Stan Nilsen" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:10 PM
> > To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "Piaget Modeler" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [agi] Attention
> >
> >> PM
> >>
> >> Costs and benefits are only one part of making a choice. There are
> >> also less tangible aspects like risk and cleanup, to name two simple
> >> ones. Risk isn't the same as cost or benefit. Risk goes into a variety
> >> of "what if" and attempts to determine what consequence may occur be
> >> it "costly" in the dollars sense or costly in time, reputation, missed
> >> opportunity etc. Clean up is a term I use to talk about what remains
> >> when and if failure occurs. Is there something to be salvaged, or a
> >> side benefit?
> >>
> >> I wouldn't say The notion of opportunity is like Serendipity. Don't
> >> know much about serendipity. Opportunity is what I would consider a
> >> record in a big database of life. Opportunity has "recipe" as one of
> >> it's fields. Recipe is what you have to do to experience the benefit
> >> of the opportunity (assume that benefit is the "reason to be" of an
> >> opportunity. )
> >>
> >> Imagine you have this great big database of opportunity, what remains
> >> is for the "intelligence" of the unit to pick/select the best of
> >> opportunity that is "ready." The method, or "recipe," one uses to pick
> >> from the database is going to have much to do with the "intelligence
> >> level" that will be assessed for the unit. One could say that
> >> intelligence is going to be assessed based on how much opportunity one
> >> acquires, the quality of the opportunity, and the recipe one uses to
> >> pick and choose the opportunity.
> >>
> >> Readiness is another "field" of the opportunity record. Along with
> >> opportunity are fields of "prerequisite" circumstances that allow the
> >> determination of the readiness of the opportunity. There's plenty of
> >> opportunity for multitasking in this system -
> >>
> >> This isn't a full description of an opportunity based system. There
> >> are lots of components that would need to be developed for a working
> >> system. Like an "updater" that tracks environment and recalculates
> >> merit of each opportunity based on findings...
> >>
> >> The point of all this rambling, is that "goal" causes one to thinks
> >> "games" while opportunity is better for thinking about intelligence.
> >>
> >> my .02
> >>
> >> Stan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2012 08:33 AM, Piaget Modeler wrote:
> >>> Would it only be costs and benefits or would we include a full fledged
> >>> opportunity "object" with whatever traits that may entail? And does this
> >>> notion differ fom Serendipity? Erik T Mueller had a serendipity
> >>> component/routine in his Daydreamer system, which recognized when goals
> >>> were serendipitously attained.
> >>>
> >>> ~PM
> >>>
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