Mike Tintner wrote: > Sergio:But there is one thing that is infinite: Mike's infinite variety. > I KNOW, REPEAT, I KNOW! DON'T TELL ME THIS AGAIN! I know that there is > an infinite variety
> Sergio, > You didn't get it. There are NO SETS in real world problems. Not > infinite sets.None. Try naming one where there is a set - from > scientific to tech. problems to everyday practical problems: What shall > have I lunch for today? What shall I watch on TV or the net tonight?Or: > What are we going to do re the Euro crisis? How can we cure cancer? Set, > please. Mike: Sergio is not completely off-base here. Set theory is extremely powerful, so powerful that much if not all of the rest of mathematics can be expressed in terms of set theory. I now need Sergio to do two things: 1. Propose a strategy to convert a realistic sensory perception, such as a pixel matrix or a tono-spatial map of binaural hearing into the kind of set he proposes. 2. Show that his algorithm can produce useful results when fed input from 1. (ie, the recognition of a shape or the identification of a sound, etc...) There seems to be a very good chance that he will be able to pull this off. But then the burden of pruf is on him... That said, I wish to hell he'd stop professing to know stuff about neurology, such as that his algorithm has nearly perfect explanatory power over all 200 types of neurons... There are a lot of critically important neural sub-systems in the brain. If you study the overall architecture of the system, you will see that there are roughly four different layers of organization, each one *MODULATES* a simpler behavior implemented by the next lower level. So no, the cortex does not produce behaviors, it merely modulates and organizes behaviors produced by lower levels, such as the thalamus, hypothalamus, and spinal nuclei. So in order to have an AGI system capable of doing anything useful, you MUST build it as a complete cybernetic agent. No sub-set of an AGI mind will be able to solve anything beyond toy problems. You MUST HAVE A COMPLETE AGENT WITH AUTONOMOUS LEARNING!!! There's no partial solution. Either it is sufficiently autonomous to learn (and hence act) on its own or you will be spending the rest of your life spoon-feeding it information. -- E T F N H E D E D Powers are not rights. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
