Russell, On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Russell Wallace <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Steve Richfield < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> For some unknown reason (Ben, here is your big chance to explain), there >> seems to be nearly universal resistance to even speculating on how a few >> million dollars could answer most of the remaining questions needed to >> build an AGI. I think the answer is that AGI people can't bear to even >> consider that their path to success might be blocked by a present lack of >> knowledge. Are there OTHER opinions here as to the mental defect that >> underlies this resistance? >> > > Sure. > > I mean, suppose for the sake of argument you're right about all this, > where does that lead? > > On this list, nowhere! We haven't got a few million dollars, or the > expertise to evaluate whether it's feasible to build a device such as you > describe in the near future, or to help build it if so. > Right, but but the military people ARE listening, and if people start expressing a need for this, then the money might appear. Without any "pull" for this, the military people will continue to watch from a distance, and quietly let AGI die if it should run into some barrier. > > You need to be talking to hardware people, neuroscientists, > These people have NO money. > funding agencies, > Neuroscience has been completely co-opted by the drug companies. I have a good friend who is the Charman of the Department of Neurological Surgery at the local university, and he can't even get funding to do some research to develop operations to save people who are dying in his own part of the hospital!!! the people who can help you get such a device built. > NO ONE is going to fund this until some need is expressed. The present group of AGIers are loathe to express any shortcoming in their knowledge, so as I see it, unless Ben "wins the lottery" and finds that people can figure 100% of this out, AGI is headed down the toilet. If you're right about some AGI people being qualified to analyze the output > of same, by all means come back and try to recruit them after you have a > device that produces output to analyze. > The classical chicken or egg problem. There it sits, There can be no funding without an expressed need, and those who will most need this are too blind to see it. This appears to be an impossible conundrum. Steve ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
