Ben, I told you 100 times, such comments, warnings and guidelines have no 
effect ;)

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On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> In general, I think it would be good if subgroups of people sharing certain 
> AI intuitions could carry out a discussion on this list, with others 
> listening in and contributing occasionally, but with others NOT repetitively 
> chiming into the discussion with comments of the basic meaning "By the way, I 
> told you guys 100 times before that your paradigm sucks, so why do you keep 
> on pursuing it?!"
> 
> For example, I would be happy to listen in on others' discussions on analog 
> computing approaches to AGI, making technical comments or asking technical 
> questions occasionally; and I would not feel the need to interrupt these 
> discussions repeatedly with comments of the form "Why don't you guys adopt my 
> preferred AGI paradigm instead!!"
> 
> This is almost making me feel motivated to create a set of posting guidelines 
> for the list ;p .. but, not quite...
> 
> -- Ben G
> 
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Russell Wallace <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> OK, perhaps we should just stay here and distinguish "weak AGI" where people 
> attempt to somehow leverage data point computation into an intelligent 
> process as now seems to be the norm on this forum, and "strong AGI" where we 
> attempt to move up to whatever metalevel is at least as high as our brains 
> operate on, and which can also conceivably be performed by plausibly 
> manufacturable hardware, albeit not anything like present CPUs.
> 
> Any problem with those terms?
> 
> Yes, 'strong AI' already has an established meaning, denoting the aim of 
> producing a fully human level mind (by whatever method), as opposed to 'weak 
> AI' which merely aims to make computers smarter and more useful than they 
> currently are.
> 
> Besides, you don't exactly need a PhD in psychology to figure out that many 
> people will object to the word 'weak' being applied to their line of 
> research! Personally I don't care about that so much as about the fact that 
> your proposed usage is highly uninformative.
> 
> Until you get enough like-minded people to start a separate mailing list, I 
> would recommend coming up with a more descriptive term for your proposed line 
> of research.
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> Ben Goertzel, PhD
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> 
> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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